"Justice " department...what an ironic name for that department

Any seconds on a motion for the DOJ to be renamed the Ministry of Love (Miniluv)?

Amazing. The DOJ will say one thing then just go ahead and do it anyway.

And this will not only reverberate within the Justice Department, it will filter down to the Cabinet positions as well. Oh, wait.....they are probably doing it already anyway.

Nice, your children are watching this maneuver and learning from it.

Beam me up, Scottie !!! There are too many Martians on Earth.

Can you imagine how far something like that would reverberate in our society? Next thing the corporations would get just one more leg up and then they would be government.

There will be transparency in my administration. - Barack Obama, 2008

Way to go Larry, I hoped someone would say that as soon as I read the article. Obama's justice department is just his puppet and they only enforce the laws he tells them to, which is a direct violation of the oath he took. When will more people figure this out, he is a TRAITOR, bent on destroying the U.S.

There will be transparency in my administration. - Barack Obama, 2008

LOL!!! Yeah, right.

Just like GW.

In a government for the people by the people supposedly anyhoo,.. It is truly a shame that so much deception is participated in. And many a time national security is NOT at stake at all.

Cheers

People busy blaming this on a particular administration are completely missing the point. The larger issue is the attitude in our governmental institutions that the public are not entitled to full disclosure. If the government wants to cite national security issues, the standard for meriting such a designation should be high.

"The Justice Department has gotten the message from journalists, interest groups and government watchdogs and has decided to withdraw its proposal to allow federal agencies to lie to people seeking sensitive documents under the Freedom of Information Act."

It's kind of nauseating to think that we have a government that wants unfettered access to snoop via wire or what we communicate over the Internet. The Freedom Act is a anti-freedom bill and the fact that the justice department was considering conning people to gain information--real or braggart talk, doesn't matter. They just want the appearance that they're doing their job. If justice in our country is real and we life in a Democracy, it's damned hard to tell. I think there's just as many bad guys making and enforcing laws as we have criminals in prisons.

Our "good guys" are so vigilant that they can send a missile through a bedroom window via an unmanned aircraft but they were incapable of stopping a pack of religious fanatic from taking flight lessons and wanted to skip the landing lessons. They were in the country illegally and they hijacked an entire nation on 9-11.

If GW Bush were still the president, this same stuff would be happening, only no one would be able to find out about it. It would just be hidden. Now these things are open and available to the media.

Remember Alberto Gonzales, Bush's Attorney General? He couldn't remember anything during his testimony before congress... "What day is it?" "I don't remember."

Remember Bush's signing statements. Congress passes a laws... Bush's signing statements said, "I am not going to obey the laws."

If you can figure out what the signing statements said you were lucky because they were written in very complex legaleze. But they are in the record, they are followed, and Bush's unitary presidency prevailed.

Bush's cabinet procedures were so convoluted that untangling them is still under way. Justice became an agency of the president rather than the independent agency of justice that it should be.

Department of Interior became a corrupted sex and drugs agency that regulated only corporations that wanted to be regulated. No corporations wanted to be regulated. Interior Department lack of regulation was responsible for the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico

Bicfj--the Bush Administration used McCarthy like infringements with total indifference to the people.

Good post.

You have nooooo idea! It scares me and lets just say I will leave it at that.

What I was trying to say was You have no idea! It scares me that they actually ignore the Consumer Protection Occupational Licensing laws. In fact it is set up that they have their own laws that exempt them from following the laws that are required by the public to follow. To add insult to injury they don't even abide by the laws that they set in place for themselves and hire people without any license at all.

Just look at all the laws the justice(?) department has broken in relation to "Fast and Furious".

What's all the fuss? The Obama administration has been lying to you daily and about everything. Why should the DOJ be any different than the rest of Obama's 'transparent' government?

The USA can kiss my ass - I just got the report of my PCE (Physical Capacities Exam) for Labor and Industries (Workers Comp) and it is full of lies. This so called government screws everyone - it matters not what party you profess to - the system is rigged to deny you the rights you lived by your entire working career.

The red herring left and right are clueless when it comes to the systems the USA has implemented - being a patriot today is to admit you sold your soul. Looks like they gave me death - cuz this sure isn't liberty. I guess I'll have to become a Reporter if I want the truth...lol.

Hear ye hear ye......someone tell the Republicans it is not okay to lie!!!

ethermeme

Don't forget Winston's employer, the Ministry of Truth, whose function is to make up the "facts" as needed. Remember your doublethink or you just might end up in the Ministry of Love! :))

Reggie,

I never heard a "man" use one person's allegded mis-deeds in the past to justify his own or another's mis-deeds, character flaws and failings. Ahetch isn't a man and neither is the sitting president.

"What do you mean,
"I don't believe in God"?
I talk to him everyday.
What do you mean,
"I don't support your system"?
I go to court when I have to.
What do you mean,
"I can't get to work on time"?
I got nothing better to do.
And, what do you mean,
"I don't pay my bills"?
Why do you think I'm broke? Huh?" Dave Mustaine - Peace Sells

Wow, I wonder what else the government lies about. Time to rewrite the entire system of government.

Talk about a lying government! Folks, everything you know about the good ol USA is all a lie...yep, lies! We are still under British rule, Aliens do exist, Repubs are communists and yep, Texas is still part of Mexico...what else ya gotta know?

What a joke! The government or any of its employees is not allowed to lie? As the joke goes, the only way to tell if a politician or government official is lying is if his lips move! Folks, we are in deep deep trouble in our country!

Makes You wonder, are they lying now when they say they've changed their minds about lying, after it comes out in the news?

lol J.D.....my question exactly. I think Congress may be getting the message that we can't stand them. The question is....do they care? I'm guessing no.

bastards

Reporters lie to us every day!

How progressive is it to have a criminal like AG Holder head the Justice Department.

The previous Bush administration kept its secrets very secret, to be revealed only 50 years after the passing of GW Bush.

That is why some people never complained about Bush and company.

Now things that happen under Obama do hit the media and big discussions follow.

That is called open government. It is the way government should be.

First post is spot on, from bill #'s.... We only even found out about this because some obscure non profit dug it up. How many things do we never hear about? This Administration is out of control. We need real transparency, not some fake promises. ALL administrations need to be transparent, with real consequences if they dodge around it. Freedom of Information requests are already routinely denied, often requiring court orders to force compliance. The penalties after forcing others to undergo years of litigation? They have to provide the documents. No fines, no firings, no damages. If you don't have a ton of money, you can't force the govt to comply with their own damn laws. This is simply not right. They work for us, not the other way around. They all (Rs,Ds) ALL DON'T GET IT!

Bicfj, no way this administration is transparent. We only found out about this because somebody caught them before they could pass this "rule" which would allow them to break the law. How can you read an article about The President's Administration trying to exempt themselves from the freedom of information act, then post here claiming Obama's administration is more transparent?

Speaking of the presidential records act, did you know Obama and his crew are trying to ammend it in order to hide even more than Bush was allowed to? Oh yes, it's true. It's called HR3071, an ammendment to the presidential records act. It claims that All President's, even afte leaving office, have a "constitutionally based privelege" to hide their info even after they leave office. I don't remember that in The Constitution, do you?

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3071/text

"The most transparent administration in history" My A$$!!!!!

Who among you actually read H R 3071?

H R 3071 reverses the past presidents' abilities to hide their records, like for example, Bush's hidden records.

H R 3071 opens the process of the Freedom of Information Act to make all records more readily available.

H R 3071 was proposed by a number of Democratic Representatives.

H R 3071 will probably fail in the House of Representatives because, as you know, it is controlled by Republicans.

bcfj, all of that is false. Follow the link I posted and read the text of the bill yourself. Don't forget to go dig up the original text that is being referenced. I can't beleive you read it and got that out of it.

More lies from the government!!

I am not surprised!! we need to send these lairs to jail! Not the white house where the get jobs!!!

I went to the link, read it all, then went to thomas.org, published by the congressional library, looked up H R 3071, read that.

What I wrote is truth.

What you wrote is excellent for creative imagination, but is false.

I suggest that you do the same and learn about the subjects before you rant about them.

bicfj, the bill EXPANDS the power to withhold documents. It creates out of nothing a "constitutionally based privelege" for the Presidents that currently does not exist! How can you say that it doesn't?

yeah, it only took them 235 years to figure this out.

Or....maybe the genius, thats behind these events, is setting the stage if one of the nine is planning on retiring sometime during the 2012-2016 presidential term. Since the president appoints the judge. The Democrat or Republican in charge gets to set the policys. IE: if a repub president is in office = a Conservative slanted judge, if a democratic president is in office = a Liberal slanted judge.

Pretty crappy choices huh? We're stuck with either Corporatism,Warfare and trampling on woman's rights on 1 side. Or rampant illegal immigration, and all the costs associated with that mess from the welcoming arms on the other side.

Can we get a third choice? Please?

Yeah, yeah, it's all Obama's fault, everything's Obama's fault....Wake up and get a life. If you want an example of government liars, crooks and mis-fits just look at Bush's gang.

SHOW ME THE WMDs...What! You mean there weren't any and you knew it all along?

And you re-elrcted the clowns anyway. Seriously, get a clue.

I'm looking, where are they at? Are they trying to make it so they can deceive us some more? They are gone and they can't create any new damage. Now the current damage control needs to start.

You just answered your own question/statement. I believe the founding fathers was trying to set up a government that serves not rule. The problem is these people along the way have added laws that corrupted what the founding fathers intended. That is why congress doesn't subject themselves to anything the people are required by law to follow. ie. social security fund, laws in general are 2 examples. How many congressmen pay into social security? ZERO. How many politicians has actually gone to jail or did they get pardons? How many of them stole from the tax payers? We the people have not held them to the same standards as ourselves. Politicians are suppose to serve the people. Then why do they get everything taken care of for them. Free transportation, food, housing etc...? Why do they get a pention? Pentions are for people that are hired. Politicians are not hired, they are elected.

Hoodie...this was within Obama's administration and on his wat. Yes. It is his fault. But what's far worse is that ,ala George Bush, he has failed or refused to hold anyone accountable. Why is it that he'll fire a general in a heartbeat-he has done so twice now- because the general didn't sign up fot his BS politics overseas, but he's okay with some jackass megalomaniac pondering whether we have a right to know what our govt is doing. I suggest that rather than focusing on helping other countries win their freedom, maybe we should work on our freedom right here at home. And I am not an Obama hater or a conservative. I'm one of the many who helped Obama become president and now have a very deep case of buyers remorse.

Thomas buyers remorse acknowledged what other choice do we have? AND that's what's sad.

No they'll continue to lie. They just don't want us to realize that there's a policy behind doing it anymore.

Dp you honestly think that just Christians served during WWII? Wouldn't putting a Christian prayer on the memorial alienate all the non Christians that served?

All religions were represented. Either honor all of them, or none at all.

Remember, it's not about just what you want or think will enhance an already great memorial. I am sure the Jews and other religions would think differently.

Dude, at least she knows how to write, i.e., use capital letters, spell, and punctuate to make a single, well thought out point.

You, on the other hand, go off on some drunken, nonsensical, foul-mouthed rant about the three or four different issues that caused your life to all apart.

Here's some advice about posting on the internet:

1) Start going to AA meetings

2) Get your GED

3) Don't think, type and masturbate at the same time.

Good luck

Whoa! Well said AskQuestions!

America is getting sick and tired of the negativity and division pushed by the misspelled sign carrying self proclaimed Christians who are pointing the finger at the poor, gays, women, Mexicans, blacks, Muslims, unions and teachers.

And their constant chants that the president is a Kennan, Muslim, socialist, anti-American who is planning death panels is pathetic. They sound like children having a tantrum.

These are the same ridiculous people who forced their kids to pray to life sized cardboard cut outs of George Bush.

I hope they choke on their tea bags.

Andy, it sounds like your'e having a "bit of fit" and a tantrum your self revealing the hypocrite you really are.

Hello pot meet kettle , the same color and just as burnt.

yeah yeah yeah

Miss Carol Raphael BROSNAN

it's all this administration.....sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Grow up........

Yeah Rick. All two of them.

The Justice Department also overlooked the armed Minutemen that were intimidating Latino voters.

Third offense?

What if they had "king's X" behind the back at the moment of lying?

@Disgusted: "kings x?" Am not familiar.

Perhaps too many of them have the "X" already, placed there by the money folk who assured their elections?

@Sam: You couldn't handle the truth. Rolled up sock in crotch and all of that, you know.

Oh Puhleeeeeeeeeese Herman Cain is such a non issue...I mean really.