Health concerns grow over little-known mineral

Oregon Department of Geology and Minerals

Photo shows volcanic tuff containing erionite in Oregon.

By Myron Levin, FairWarning.org

Mesothelioma, an exceedingly rare and lethal form of cancer, was once thought to be caused only by inhaling asbestos fibers.

Then in the late 1970s, when astonishing rates of the disease were reported among villagers in central Turkey, studies determined that a different fibrous mineral was the culprit. Erionite was abundant in native soil and stone, and so easy to work with that villagers had used it to build homes.

In the most devastated communities, known locally as “cancer villages,” mesothelioma rates were off the charts--responsible for 40 percent to 50 percent of all deaths. Animal studies showed erionite to be 100 to 800 times more carcinogenic than asbestos and, according to a scientific paper, “almost certainly the most toxic naturally occurring fibrous mineral known.”

In the U.S., medical journals and news stories presented the Turkish epidemic as a gruesome, but distant, catastrophe. They largely omitted a key fact: Erionite deposits are present scores of sites in at least a dozen western U.S. states.


Interviews and documents from the 1980s show there was a flicker of interest in assessing the risks in the U.S., but researchers and officials lost interest and moved on to other things.

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The result is that, after three decades, erionite remains a word most Americans—and many environmental officials--have never heard. Amid an expansion of roads, pipelines, power lines, wind and solar farms and recreation sites in remote areas of the West, erionite is unregulated, and federal agencies have failed to alert land-use officials, developers and residents of affected areas so that they might take precautions on their own.

Uneasy about the long silence, some government officials and scientists  are trying to fashion a federal response. Toward that end, a meeting planned next week at the National Institutes of Health, will bring together representatives of the Environmental Protection Agency, the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, the Mine Safety and Health Administration, and the U.S. Geological Survey, to discuss potential risks from erionite and other hazardous minerals.

“We need to be cautious because there’s clear evidence of disease” from mineral fibers, said Dr. Aubrey Miller, a senior medical advisor at the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences who will chair the meeting.

“At a minimum, we can begin to start to educate the public and policymakers,” he told FairWarning. “I certainly don’t want to count bodies later.”

Driving the renewed interest is fear of repeating past government failures to promptly inform the public of potential hazards.

One case involved Libby, Montana, where asbestos contamination from a mine near the town was blamed for scores of deaths and illnesses among workers and residents. Vermiculite ore tainted by asbestos and mined from about 1920 to 1990 was given to unwary residents for use as insulation and in other building projects. When the EPA arrived on the scene in 1999, it came under scathing criticism for failing to act earlier to inform the community and launch a cleanup.

Another was the disclosure that road crews in North Dakota, heedless of the danger, had used erionite-tainted gravel to cover hundreds of miles of unpaved roads in the western part of the state, including school bus routes, along with parking lots and recreation sites.

Erionite is found where volcanic ash and rock have been weathered by alkaline water, Like asbestos, it is harmless until it is disturbed, and the microscopic, needle-like fibers become airborne. And like asbestos, greater and more frequent exposure generally means higher risk.

No proof has emerged of erionite-related illnesses in North Dakota or other western states, but experts say that is less than reassuring. Mesothelioma usually takes 30 to 50 years to develop, is sometimes mistaken for other cancers, and when identified often is automatically assumed to be asbestos-related.

In Mexico, a mesothelioma cluster has been reported in a rural area near the border of Zacatecas and Jalisco states. Medical reports say victims had no known exposure to asbestos, but lived on a plain rich in zeolites, the mineral family that includes erionite.

When Turkish researchers in the 1970s found soaring rates of mesothelioma in the Cappadocia region, they linked it to villagers inhaling dust while farming potatoes and scallions. They soon discovered that residents were also being exposed inside their homes built with erionite-containing stones.

Research later uncovered a genetic factor. People in the hardest-hit villages had long been shunned by horrified outsiders, leading to inbreeding and magnifying the risk for those with a genetic predisposition to the harmful effects.

Documents reflect a brief interest in the health implications for the American West.

In an area of north central Nevada where erionite was present in road dust, researchers from the University of Utah examined chest radiographs from a local hospital, but turned up nothing unusual. But they also published a case report describing a local road construction worker with respiratory disease whose lung biopsy showed fibrous particles “consistent with erionite” An investigation of mesothelioma “in the Intermountain region and exposure relationships would be useful,” they wrote.

But according to two of the researchers, Dr. William Rom, currently director of the pulmonary division at the New York University School of Medicine, and Dr. Kenneth Casey, now at the University of Cincinnati College of Medicine, their request for a grant from the Institutes of Health was turned down.

About the same time, with the Defense Department proposing to build a network of “racetracks” to shuttle nuclear MX missiles over a vast area of the Great Basin, opponents seized on the problem of erionite dust. The plan was abandoned, and interest in erionite faded, too.

It was revived by chance after an official from the U.S. Geological Survey gave a talk at the spring banquet of the University of North Dakota geology department in 2005. He spoke of the need for geologists to be aware of naturally occurring hazards, mentioning erionite. An assistant professor named Nels Forsman piped up: “Hey, we’ve got some of that right here in North Dakota.”

In the mid-1980s, Forsman, had done a field study in the Killdeer Mountains of western North Dakota for the state geological survey. His 1986 report noted the presence of erionite, but he knew nothing of the events in Turkey and didn’t give it much thought.

“Nobody in our department had heard anything about it” until the banquet, Forsman told FairWarning.

But Forsman then alerted the geological survey, which contacted the state health department, which in turn brought in the EPA. Their investigation launched in 2006 revealed that erionite-containing gravel from pits in western North Dakota had been spread over some 300 miles of unpaved roads.

Air sampling along the gravel roadways and in vehicles, including inside school buses, revealed erionite levels similar to those in some stricken Turkish villages, though at lower concentrations than the most devastated communities. A preliminary health study that included 15 people thought to have high exposure to road gravel found two with pleural plaques, or lung scarring, consistent with inhalation of mineral fibers.

Michele Carbone

Dr. Michele Carbone, director of the University of Hawaii Cancer Center.

Though the erionite situation quickly erupted into a major story in North Dakota, it drew virtually no media attention outside the state. So complete was the blackout that last December, when Dr. Michele Carbone, a prominent mesothelioma researcher, briefed lung specialists at a national medical meeting in Chicago, it was the first they had heard of it, according to some who attended.

In response to the discovery, the North Dakota Department of Transportation has banned the use of erionite-containing gravel on state roads. But the western part of the state is in the midst of a gigantic oil boom, bringing a massive increase in truck traffic and road dust that residents say clouds visibility and may be harming crops and human health. Last month the state industrial commission and two of the most affected counties authorized a study of the best ways to reduce road dust.

Some agencies in other states are taking safety measures, though the efforts have been isolated and piecemeal.

In eastern Oregon, which has large erionite beds, the state transportation department is conducting a study. The idea is to avoid being “blissfully ignorant” of the locations of erionite or other naturally occurring hazards in future construction and maintenance work, said Matthew Mabey, a research engineer with the Oregon Department of Transportation.

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Erionite in rock formations, Rome, Oregon.

In Montana, where road building crews in the 1960s ripped the top off an erionite-bearing mountain and spread the fill along more than three miles of state highway 323, soil samples have shown erionite levels as high as 20 percent.   Highway workers have been directed to use protective suits and respirators when their work involves land disturbance, such as clearing ditches and mowing vegetation.

Erionite also occurs in rocky outcrops in parts of the Custer National Forest in southeastern Montana and western South Dakota. Forest Service officials have adopted dust control measures, including wetting down helicopter landing spots when fighting wild fires.

In a joint report, Custer National Forest and Montana officials cited the need for a federal policy to reduce risks from erionite and naturally occurring asbestos.

Mining is another activity without any rules on erionite exposure. No erionite has been mined in the U.S. for about 30 years, but it is sometimes mixed in with other types of zeolites that are produced at a few mines in the West. According to an EPA report in1987, a producer contacted by the agency stated that its zeolite products “can contain 10 to 30 percent erionite.”

Most zeolites produced today are of two varieties, chabazite and clinoptilolite. With their ability to trap and filter contaminants, they have been used to purify water and to treat radioactive and other hazardous wastes.

From its Mud Hills mine in the Mojave Desert in California, Steelhead Specialty Minerals has produced clinoptilolite for cleanup of the tsunami-stricken Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan, said its president Wallace McGregor.

Along with others in the industry, McGregor said current operators are well aware of erionite, and take pains to avoid it. But “I wouldn’t say there isn’t a trace,” he added. It’s “maybe an overstatement that there are not traces of a little bit of this, and a little bit of that, in a zeolite deposit.”

Carbone, who will be among those presenting at the meeting at the Institutes of Health, has called for action to prevent and detect mesothelioma cases in North Dakota and other erionite-rich areas.

Mesothelioma is “a cancer that in most cases can be prevented,” he said in an interview. “We really have the possibility to do something…to prevent cancer in future generations.”

FairWarning is a nonprofit, online investigative news organization focused on public health and safety issues.

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Well written article.

I already foresee the regulars crying foul about how the federal EPA is "hampering business" and should "stay out of the way".

These are the same people who would be the first to jump on the EPA's back if they failed to take proactive measures to regulate this substance. "See how they did nothing??? They can't do their jobs!"

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Reply#1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 9:27 AM EDT

The EPA should regulate lava flows from volcanos then. This is how erionite is formed. The EPA should do its job regulating volcanic activity. This is how EPA works, prevent pollutants from being formed in the first place by hampering production.

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#1.1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:21 AM EDT

The best way to prevent the inhalation of road dust is to pave the roads in question. Yes, 300 miles' worth is a lot, but probalby no more than scraping up all the gravel and replacing it with something else.

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#1.2 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:36 AM EDT

No GC, they should stop the use of impacted gravel as bedding for roads.

They should enforce dust suppression measures (as simple as wetting soils with water) for new construction. Simple steps like this will prevent the catastrophy that residents of Libby, Montana are experiencing today.

Before you post a smart@ss comment such as you did, you should read up on Libby. It's a crying shame what these people went through.

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#1.3 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 12:06 PM EDT

This is pretty much a bogus story.

1) Erionite has been known since 1898. Any geologist would tell you that it is one of the fibers that is in the group commonly referred to as "asbestos."

2) There are only five fibers that the EPA currently defined as asbestos. They did this at the behest of the three corporations who withheld information about the dangers of asbestos from their workmen (while requiring that managers never visit the mines or come into contact with the miners in any way.) In truth there are about 70 fibers that are collectively known as asbestos. Erionite is one of them.

3) When tumor biopsies are done on mesothelioma dead, they can ALWAYS find an asbestos fiber at the center of the tumor. But they cannot easily identify which of the 70 mineral it is. The asbestos industry used this fact by saying, "Only five fibers are defined as asbestos. How can a jury know if one of those five fibers was at fault or one of the 65 others which are just as lethal (or more so according to the article) but legal." The three asbestos companies actually had their settlement costs in mesothelioma cut by 70% by using this entirely bogus argument.

4) And this is why big corporations do not want the EPA or anyone else looking out for the health of the taxpayer.

It always astounds me how many people are always against their own best interests. It just shows how "special" many people think they are.

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#1.4 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 12:37 PM EDT

Chris "It always astounds me how many people are always against their own best interests. It just shows how"special" many people think they are.

Propaganda provides an explanation - sad but true how effective it is.

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#1.5 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 1:32 PM EDT

No matter what it is , there will always be someone that wants to PROFIT from it's use. And of course they will cry foul and demand their access to it.

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 2:19 PM EDT

Chris, you may have a legitimate objection to this story, but I'm not sure based on what you wrote. For one thing -- you are arguing semantics in a way that does not entirely make sense. So what if erionite is or is not technically something that can be classified as asbestos? Whatever you call it, it causes cancer and should be a concern to people's health -- regardless of how it is legally defined. The fact that the law does not recognize it as asbestos does nothing to nullifying its carcinogenic properties. And the fact that it has been known since 1898 does not change the fact that it is not commonly known for the danger it poses today. And I am still unclear, based on these arguments, why it would make the story bogus. The story is about the dangers of this mineral and the fact that people are not adequately aware or taking precautions -- no matter how you legally classify it or how long it has been identified by science, the danger and ignorance remain.

As I said, you may have a legitimate point you were trying to make, but it failed. What you wrote does not prove the story bogus.

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#1.7 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:37 PM EDT

I wonder if this is a whole lot worse than back in the 1910s and 1020s when around Denver, CO, processed radium tailings were used as road-base all over the area??? Hmm, now we know one reason why radon is such a big issue in the basements of houses around metro-Denver that many houses have to have a subfloor fan running constantly to evacuate the radon gas down to "safe" levels!!!

  • 4 votes
#1.8 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 5:24 PM EDT

saddened - it's possible Chris didn't make the point you wanted him to make - but, I agree, the story isn't bogus - I learned something from it..

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#1.9 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 6:55 PM EDT

If it isn't one goddamned thing it's another. Hell no! The story isn't bogus! When such a danger exists the people should know about it and we should employ any and all means to neutralize it. Just be goddamned! Just keeps on keeping on.

    #1.10 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:43 PM EDT

    Great, and there are four dots on that map leading right to my back yard...

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    #1.11 - Sat Oct 8, 2011 12:30 AM EDT

    Asbestos type mineral fibers are fairly common in the East as well. Appalachian foothills are full of them. But in the East there is usually plenty of ground cover to immobilize the fibers. Not so in the West.

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    #1.12 - Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:30 AM EDT

    Hence the GOP plan of deregulation, if we don't know what makes you sick, you'll die quicker and be less of a healthcare burden.

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    #1.13 - Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:16 PM EDT
    Reply

    Where are all to comments? Where is the indignation? Oh, sorry the lawyers are not involved yet showing us people dying.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#2 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 9:37 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarUDunnoBroExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Erionite is a natural organic mineral and is therefore safer and better for you than manmade non-organic minerals.

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    Reply#3 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 9:46 AM EDT

    This is yet another instance of the Federal government doing their usual lackluster job of looking out for themselves instead of looking out for their constituents. The officials responsible for this debacle should at the very least lose their jobs and their pensions.

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    #3.1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:23 AM EDT

    Animal studies showed erionite to be 100 to 800 times more carcinogenic than asbestos and, according to a scientific paper, “almost certainly the most toxic naturally occurring fibrous mineral known.”

    Next time READ the article before making a comment based on your "educated" opinion.

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    #3.2 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:40 AM EDT

    I read sarcasm.

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    #3.3 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:13 AM EDT

    Best laugh of the day;)

    (although you do need to point out sarcasm to some people)

    • 3 votes
    #3.4 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:36 AM EDT

    Sadly, the original comment isn't necessarily sarcasm, as many people actually believe that (never mind that cyanide is a natural, organic material). I hope the comment was sarcastic, but I'm not sure.

    • 2 votes
    #3.5 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 2:07 PM EDT

    After pondering comment 3 I have to say sarcasm, the reason being is much of what you hear at least concerning food products is organic is always better than non organic.

    • 1 vote
    #3.6 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:42 PM EDT

    Yes, yes it is the little known rock not the atomic testing. I just find it a little funny that the area shown in the map is the fallout zone from early very dirty atom bomb testing.

      #3.7 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 4:52 PM EDT
      Reply

      This just sucks, but isn't surprising at all.

      • 5 votes
      Reply#4 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 9:51 AM EDT

      Huh,  Uranium is a nutural mineral and is therefore safer and better for you than manmade non-organic minerals.  Consume moderate quantities.

      • 14 votes
      Reply#5 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 9:52 AM EDT

      Ill eat it with my weaties.

      • 3 votes
      #5.1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:41 AM EDT

      I don't have any uranium, but maybe I'll just take the crystal off my watch and lick the glow-in-the-dark paint off the numbers,

        #5.2 - Sat Oct 8, 2011 6:49 AM EDT
        Reply

        We don't need any more stinking regulations; furthermore, we don't need a minimum wage, safety regulations, banking regulations, environmental regulations or any regulations of private industry. Profits are more important than the health and welfare of American citizens.

        We are your friends. You can trust us.

        Signed,

        Congressional Conservatives Coalition

        • 21 votes
        Reply#6 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 9:53 AM EDT

        You read the signature incorrectly......................................it says

        "We are the government and we're here to help you."

        Signed,

        Elected Officials (on the apron strings of corporate officials)

        • 7 votes
        #6.1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:33 AM EDT

        same thing

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        #6.2 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:13 PM EDT
        Reply

        This is pretty scary. Seems like there is lots of dancing around the issue of whether or not it Erionite can be 'proven' to cause Mesothelioma. Considering it can be 800 times more carcinogenic than asbestos it smells like coverup...dusty roads traveled by schoolbuses are paved with it while highway workers are told to wear protective suits and respirators(!)

        Mesothelioma has been tracked for decades...how about some data on the incident rates found in these desert areas versus back east?

        • 8 votes
        Reply#7 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 9:54 AM EDT

        The erionite content was not discovered until 2005. They used the contaminated gravel to cover the roads before they knew what was in it. Once it was there, it couldn't be easily removed. So, yes, highway workers are advised to take precautions.

        For those who suggest paving the affected roads, you have no idea how many thousands of miles of unpaved road there are in North Dakota. Are you willing to have your taxes go up to pay for the paving?

        • 1 vote
        #7.1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 7:53 PM EDT
        Reply

        I now have some concerns about the erionite chocolate chip cookies my mother in law gives me every Christmas.

        "Old family recipe," she says.

        • 8 votes
        Reply#8 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:03 AM EDT

        Send her cyanide fruit cake this holiday season, it is to die for.

        • 1 vote
        #8.1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:45 PM EDT
        Reply

        Zeolite has been a big "detoxifier" in the alternative health movement for years. The fact that it may contain significant amounts of erionite has put millions of people at risk.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#9 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:10 AM EDT

        depends if it is harmful if ingested, would figure if its harmful to your lungs would be harmful in the gut. just saying.

          #9.1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:44 AM EDT

          "As of November 2010, 194 unique zeolite frameworks have been identified, and over 40 naturally occurring zeolite frameworks are known"

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeolites

          key word in your statement is "may"

            #9.2 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 2:21 PM EDT
            Reply

            The reports about what comes from mining that seeps into the fibers of trees and gets into the water sources, i.e. lakes, rivers, etc, is far more deadlier then this. Some of you may recall the reports about that not that long ago. And thos minerals are used to make fiber boards, fiber glass and . . . well, you know the rest of the story. Ohh, and the wood chips from those trees are full of that stuff as well.

              Reply#10 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:23 AM EDT

              My Dad worked his entire career at a cardboard box factory, and died from mesothelioma. I always suspected the wood fibers somehow as a contributor.

              • 1 vote
              #10.1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:27 PM EDT
              Reply

              Actually, humans are killiing themselves with improvements and have been for a very, very long time. That includes our fruits and veggies and some meat sources.

                Reply#11 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:24 AM EDT

                We're on our own people...always too little, too late.

                  Reply#12 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:41 AM EDT

                  Be afraid of everything!  Don't do anything unless the government tells you what to do! Government funded scientist/preists are the only ones who can keep you safe! (or a dust mask) Absolute faith in everthing they say is essential.  Do this for you entire life! (Which is twice as long as you would have lived 100 yrs ago)

                  The real killer is cantalope!

                   

                    Reply#13 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:42 AM EDT

                    Dont forget about "manmade" global warming

                      #13.1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:50 AM EDT

                      It's called climate change and it's real.

                      Yes indeed, do be afraid

                        #13.2 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:48 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        Hey Dr. Michele Carbone...get a hair cut.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#14 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:46 AM EDT

                        Where are you.. 1969?

                        • 1 vote
                        #14.1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:46 AM EDT

                        That's funny, I was just thinking, a fine scientist, and a fine full head of hair. Very appealing to the ladies. Perhaps whynot is balding and jealous? :-)

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                        #14.2 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 12:32 PM EDT

                        I pretty much guarantee he is. Probably wears a rug, too.

                          #14.3 - Sat Oct 8, 2011 6:49 AM EDT
                          Reply

                          I have two concerns here, one personal, in that zeolite is a great "natural" deodorizer that can be (and I have) used in waste cans, pet litter, etc.; the second is political, like remember that huge pipeline the Koch brothers want to run from the Canadian border down to Texas? What kind of minerals do you suppose they'll be disturbing when they do that? Hmmm?

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#15 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:50 AM EDT

                          make them go around any deposits or slam them with regulations to control contamination. Ya, ya, I know someone will say it wont happen because of corporate greed and power. Well then speak up where and when it counts, not just on some comment section of an article with only partial and biased facts.

                          • 1 vote
                          #15.1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:54 AM EDT
                          Reply

                          The government doesn't regulate erionite, but is practically destroying Gibson guitars for questions about rosewood from India?

                          Check out the "Lacey Act."

                          http://leestranahan.com/the-horrible-lacey-act-the-gibson-guitar-raids

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#16 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:51 AM EDT

                          interesting but a severely slanted right wing article.

                          • 2 votes
                          #16.1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:06 AM EDT

                          True, but musicians can't even travel to Europe and back with a decades old instrument that MIGHT have ebony or rosewood for fear that the government will confiscate it.

                          But the Chinese buy the rosewood in gigantic amounts.

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                          #16.2 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 1:53 PM EDT

                          I like rosewood. I was thinking of siding my house with it, but only if it's the last available supply.

                            #16.3 - Sat Oct 8, 2011 6:52 AM EDT
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                            Heads up, Haliburton fracker workers in N. Dakota!! Better save all that money you are making for your surviving family members after you die prematurely of cancer from inhaling Erionite dust...

                            This is Mother Nature's way of getting back at you for raping the Earth, its wildlife, land & water, as well as innocent human inhabitants that live locally to your fracking operations.

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#17 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:55 AM EDT

                            Zeolites are used to seperate Oxygen form the air in Oxygen Concentrators. I would like to know if erionite is present in these zeolites and if the post compressor filtration is capable of capturing any erionite that is present.

                              Reply#18 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:09 AM EDT

                              Coming to a TV near you.

                              I am a non-attorney spokes person for the law firm of Dewy, Screwum, and How. If you or a loved one traveled in any of a number of US states or if you or a loved one worked on road construction, mining, forestry or other outdoor occupations. If you or a loved one hiked or camped outside, and have developed mesothelioma you may be entitled to a large cash settlement.

                              We used to think that mesothelioma was only caused by asbestos. we now know that other naturally occurring minerals can also cause mesothelioma, and since we have run all the companies out of business that used to make asbestos, we can now go after a whole new group of deep pockets.

                              This has been a public service announcement for the law firm of Dewy, Screwum, and How. Who reminds all those listening, life is dangerous. Most people will die from experiencing it. So if life and nature have affected your health, contact us.

                              • 5 votes
                              Reply#19 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:09 AM EDT

                              Catch22!

                              Coming to a TV near you.

                              I am a non-attorney spokes person for the law firm of Dewy, Screwum, and How. If you or a loved one traveled in any of a number of US states or if you or a loved one worked on road construction, mining, forestry or other outdoor occupations. If you or a loved one hiked or camped outside, and have developed mesothelioma you may be entitled to a large cash settlement.

                              We used to think that mesothelioma was only caused by asbestos. we now know that other naturally occurring minerals can also cause mesothelioma, and since we have run all the companies out of business that used to make asbestos, we can now go after a whole new group of deep pockets.

                              This has been a public service announcement for the law firm of Dewy, Screwum, and How. Who reminds all those listening, life is dangerous. Most people will die from experiencing it. So if life and nature have affected your health, contact us.

                              That's hilarious Catch. Do you have any idea how many US Navy and Coast Guard engineers (snipes) have been exposed to asbestos over the years with no warnings and no breathing protection. It's really pretty the way the fibers sparkle in the air you're breathing. For days after wrapping piping, your mouth is dry and your throat is sore. You develop a dry cough that sticks with you for a couple of weeks. That's right Mr. Flippant, young men defending this country were directly exposed to a considerable amount of free asbestos and the corporations knew the risks from years of watching their workers dying. Of course what would have happened to those lucrative government contracts if they had warned the US Government? Have you every witnessed someone die from mesothelioma? That's something likely in my not too distant future so pardon me if I take offense to your post. Have a nice day.

                              • 1 vote
                              #19.1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 12:27 PM EDT

                              Hey Catch,

                              Try doing some research before you spout off. The stuff that has come to be called "Asbestos" is all from naturally occurring minerals. No company ever "made" asbestos. The naturally occurring minerals are simply mined and then exploited for commercial gain -- i.e. processed into forms that were sold and used for specific purposes. It is all "natural."

                              On another note, I'm a fan of sarcasm and have long annoyed my family and friends with my own brand of sarcasm... But your sarcasm is sadly misplaced here. This is not a laughing matter. This is not something to be mocked and taken lightly.

                              I'm certainly no supporter of frivolous lawsuits, but anyone who knowingly exposes their employees and/or customers to a deadly/dangerous substance without adequate warning deserves to be sued out of existence.

                                #19.2 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:53 PM EDT
                                Reply

                                Sue Mother Nature. This is all her fault.

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#20 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:23 AM EDT

                                I wonder how many people taking part in the lawsuits for asbestos deaths are actually victims of this instead? Doesn't that just add a new wrinkle in things?

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#21 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:25 AM EDT

                                Organic? Erionite??

                                I didn't think Erionite contains any Carbon!

                                LOL

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#22 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 12:02 PM EDT

                                I say we just get rid of the EPA. This is "big government" trying to scare us. It's clear that the EPA just wants money to hire more feds. The Koch Bros. say it's safe and that's good enough for me.

                                  Reply#23 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 12:38 PM EDT

                                  Many Americans have lost faith in the Obama administration's EPA telling the truth. For example, lowering the Arsenic levels in drinking water. Has there been a spate of people being poisened lately?

                                  What is the Obama administration trying to grab hold of now in the guise of protecting us from ourselves? For example, by executive order, President Obama is grabing control of the oceans, fisheries and great lakes, and the routing of power lines in the 50 states.

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                                  Reply#24 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 1:01 PM EDT

                                  hmm, so you prefer more arsenic to less? Is the amount of aluminum in a tin foil hat regulated yet?

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                                  #24.1 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 2:29 PM EDT

                                  The current levels of Arsenic in drinking water are not anywhere near levels that could cause any harm! The EPA is out of Congressional contol.

                                  Take your progressive tin foil hat off!

                                    #24.2 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:12 PM EDT
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                                    All the more reason why we need the EPA.

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                                    Reply#25 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 1:15 PM EDT
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