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A civic education: Cindy Spanyers of Juneau and her 14-year-old son, Tim Flanagan, read Sarah Palin's public emails at Centennial Hall in Juneau on Saturday, with other citizens and journalists from msnbc.com. Now the full archive of documents is online.
By Sylvia Wood and Bill Dedman, msnbc.com
JUNEAU, Alaska — The 24,000 pages of emails from Sarah Palin's term as governor of Alaska were released at 9 a.m. local time Friday, or 1 p.m. ET. Reporters from msnbc.com, the news website, are live-blogging the event here.
Thank you to citizens from Juneau who helped us read documents at Centennial Hall. There were 31 patient Alaskans reading their public records. Of course, now the online archive is available to everyone.
We're shutting down the live blog now, and will add to Open Channel other items that readers find in the online archive from msnbc.com. If you see an interesting document, drop us an e-mail.
SATURDAY
2:41 p.m. AT (6:41 p.m. ET): Our Juneau residents are nearly through the 24,000 pages in the reading room at Centennial Hall in Juneau. We'll ship home one set, but the other remains. Anyone have directions to a recycling center?
1:53 p.m. AT (5:53 p.m. ET): Gov. Palin's comment when she was chosen as Sen. John McCain's vice-presidential candidate: "Can you flippinbelieveit?!"
1:10 p.m. AT (5:10 p.m. ET): Public figures come under personal attacks, and even worse, attacks on their family. On some days, Gov. Palin said, "I hate this part of the job."
During July 2008, Palin sent to her staff a note about comments posted on the Anchorage Daily News website by a political blogger and Palin critic. "Ok dokay- enough is enough," she wrote from her Blackberry. "I am calling ADN, as Todd just called from Dlg and said Sherry Whitstine (aka crazy hater) blogged yesterday that 'Sarah had an affair with Todd's best friend while he was on the slope.' No, I haven't read it- others have - it's flippin unbelievable that the ADN allows lies like this to be posted. I'm calling."
Her staff then sent around an email of complaint to be copy and pasted for sending to the newspaper. "Her comments are downright libelous," Palin aide Ivy Frye wrote.
Palin replied to her staff on Jully 9: "Guys, I may be pertty wimpy about this family stuff, but I feel like I'm at the breaking point with the hurtful gossip about my family that Sherry and otehrs get away with." (Sherry is not identified by last name.)
"Bear with me. I hate this part of the job and many days I feel like it's not worth it when they have to put up with the hate that spews from people like Sherry, and there are others."
Thousands of pages of email from Sarah Palin's time as Alaska Governor have been digitized and made public online. Both journalists and the general public pore through her personal correspondence with top aides in hopes of better understanding the former governor and Vice Presidential candidate. NBC's Michael Isikoff reports.
In a different email, she said, "Arrrrrgh! It's when they hit anything towards my kids that this mama bear comes unglued. Sheeeesh."
Aide Rosanne Hughes tried to comfort her: "Governor, do you know how loved you are? These four or five bitter people are so NOT representative. You are so, so loved. The enemy is trying to discourage you. Hang I there! You are doing such an awesome job. You are an amazing lady and the Lord is your defender. He knows the truth and He is going to vindicate you. It hurts my heart to hear these horrible people are bringing you down. We forgive them, Lord. Help theses people come to know You."
And then, from Palin's Blackberry, came a reply typed by her daughter: "This is Bristol my moms driving, we say thank you so much and mom and I were just praying about the hurt and anger that comes with her job. Thank you for your faith in God. We share it and we love you! Bristol"
Palin then suggested more than prayer. "I think our security guys should check into her because the times she's blogged about Todd's schedule and what we drive have really infringed on our privacy rights and potential safety when psychos know when Todd's out of town."
12:28 p.m. AT (4:28 p.m. ET): The analysts from Crivella West, which scanned and placed these 24,000 pieces of paper online for msnbc.com's searchable archive, say they've noticed something interesting in the way the state of Alaska withheld information from the Palin emails.
In all their big legal cases, the analysts said, they see discrepancies in the redactions, which is a fancy way of saying the hiding of information. Part of the text may be blanked out in one copy of an email, but the text will be revealed in another copy.
But in this Palin email release, after all the long delays and the insanity/hilarity of releasing emails in 250-pound bundles of bankers boxes, the redactions were entirely clean. If the state lawyers and the governors office hid something in one copy of an email, they hid it in every copy.
The analysts, who work on the biggest tort cases in the country, said they had never seen this level of care taken in blanking out information.
12:16 p.m. AT (4:16 p.m. ET): While Palin was tackling Alaska state business as governor, one email in particular shows that she also had to juggle the usual demands of being a mother. Many parents, especially those of teens, should be able to relate to this Feb. 6, 2008, email from Bristol:
"Hello Mother,
Um, I'm sitting in libary and I really thing you need to get Piper a cell phone!! Wouldn't that be so adorable! She could text me while she was in class!! It's a done deal right?! Perfect! Ok, I will talk to you later and I need some cash flow! Love ya!"
12:06 p.m. AT (4:06 p.m. ET): Newt Gingrich reached out to Sarah Palin in 2008, asking about the way the state of Alaska distributes some of its oil and gas revenue directly to citizens.
"Someone recommended to me," he wrote, "that we study the alaskan model of revenue distribution back to the citizens and get bills introduced in the state legislature in california florida and elsewhere that if they do go offshore drilling they should split the revenue stream with a specified amount (maybe half) going to the citizens as a direct benefit." He asked for a full explanation of how it works.
11:49 a.m. AT (3:49 p.m. ET): When Sarah Palin "slipped up" by sending an email about public business through her government email account, her staff was quick to nudge her back to using private email accounts, presumably out of the reach of the prying eyes of citizens, the press and investigators.
On Sept. 22, 2007, aide Frank Bailey warned her in an email:
"Governor, all of your emails are coming from your State account (govpalin@alaska.gov) right now, not your yahoo. I'm going to check with Barb on that, and its probably a setting that got accidentally changed on Friday."
11:43 a.m. AT (3:43 p.m. ET): Palin has often spoken publicly about the importance of her Christian faith, and her emails underscore that element of her life as she tackled state business during her term as governor, including in 2008 as she pondered the state budget in an email exchange with Tom Irwin of the Alaska Department of Natural Resources.
“Thank you Tom- I've been praying for wisdom also on this- I am so glad to know you join me in this- God will have to show me what to do on the people's budget because I don't yet know the right path... He will show me though. Thank you and God bless your day today!”
In an earlier exchange with Irwin on the AGIA or the Alaska Gasoline Inducement Act, she prays that others will find God’s wisdom:
“…I wish and pray that those who act like ignorant sheep listening to baa's and blah's from uninformed, selfish critics of AGIA would wake up to the amazing efforts and success of your team. You are patient and gracious and wise ... and so tenacious . I speak for true Alaskans who care to see fairness , justice and a successful resource development plan : you are loved and appreciated beyond words! And we have great faith that you're on the right path, AGIA is key, and there will be victory for Alaska thanks to you all.”
11:28 a.m. AT (3:28 p.m. ET): There was a great deal of back-and-forth among Palin and her aides and state lawyers in 2007 and 2008 on these questions:
Could all the emails on their Blackberrys and personal e-mail accounts be subpoenaed?
Are emails from personal accounts routed through the state's computers if they're sent to Blackberrys that the state pays for?
The governor and her staffers seemed to be weighing two concerns: They wanted the state government to pay for their smartphones, but they wanted to make sure that they could protect the privacy of their communications from public records requests or subpoena.
You can see these emails with a search in msnbc.com's online archive for the word "subpoena."
10:43 a.m. AT (2:43 p.m. ET): BP, the oil company with deep interests in Alaska, called the governor's office on March 26, 2007, looking for someone to serve on its Benevolent Giving Board, which decides which charitable organizations should receive BP contributions. The governor's aide, Ivy Frye, suggested a couple of names. Gov. Palin fired back from her Yahoo email account: "My sister. If not her, then a missionary friend of mine - I"ll get her name."
9:44 a.m. AT (1:45 p.m. ET): A governor laments about her closing circle of people she can trust. Nearly a year into her term as governor, Sarah Palin had a falling out with a former speechwriter, Glen Biegel. It accelerated after he made negative comments on a local radio show.
Palin replied with one of her longest emails we've seen so far, an eight-paragraph expression of sadness and disappointment.
An excerpt from the email on Sept. 12, 2007:
"Glen - I don't even know what to say after catching your visit on Fagan's show yesterday. I wanted to call in and ask 'why? ...
"After yesterday it's been confirmed: The circle of confidants is so small in the world of politics, much less the circle of friends. Your comments and follow-on agreements with Fagan about his 'more broken promises' claims, claims of pandering to media and not being conservative, etc, etc, etc... it was all heartbreaking... but eye-opening for me as the circle grew smaller right before my ears."
And later in the email: "Sorry to be so long in this email - I just am baffled and saddened that the circle closes ever smaller."
9:10 a.m. AT (1:10 p.m. ET): It’s well known that there was tension between the Palin and McCain teams during the 2008 campaign. An email, dated Sept. 3, 2008, shows early rifts.
The email, forwarded to Palin by her then-communications director William McAllister, was written by a person identified only as "Phil," and complains about the "McCain hacks" who helped write a speech Palin gave as not doing "the ticket much good."
"My two cents? The governor has better political instincts than McCain," Phil writes. "She can charm the socks off America if McCain and "his people" will simply let Sarah Palin be Sarah Palin.”
Unfortunately, neither a full name nor email address is given for Phil, and his role in the campaign or in Palin's administration is unclear. What’s interesting to note is that the message was forwarded to Palin by one of her top aides, suggesting some support among those closest to her about the opinions expressed.
8:34 a.m. AT (12:34 p.m. ET): Nowhere was Palin’s fraught relationship with the media more evident than during the now infamous September 2008 interview with CBS Evening News' Katie Couric, when Palin declined to name any newspapers or magazines she regularly reads – a response that drew criticism from some.
But emails show Palin’s frustration with the media began early in her term as governor. She frequently requested her staff contact reporters about errors she found in their articles.
"It may drive me crazy trying to catch all the corrections we'll be reading and seeing in the media," Palin began a note to deputy communications director Sharon Leighow in early August of 2008. "But please help me catch them and ask for the corrections." One of the errors she saw: Her daughter Piper's age had been misreported as 8, not 7.
In an earlier email dated May 28, 2008, Bruce Anders of the Alaska Department of Natural Resources apologizes for a “Tough day at the office,” when Palin was apparently “left unprepared.” He promises it won’t happen again, especially with an upcoming interview with Forbes.
"First, as to your Forbes interview on Thursday, Meg and I will ensure your have notes in hand tomorrow, as well as an assistant to be with you during the interview. Is there Somebody specific you request?"
8:17 a.m. AT (12:17 p.m. ET): Residents of Juneau are back in Centennial Hall this morning, reading the public records. Come on down if you're in the neighborhood. We'll be reading and blogging until 3 p.m. local time, or 7 p.m. back East. Of course, the full archive is now online through msnbc.com, and searchable, but there's a power in turning the pages.
FRIDAY
9:18 p.m. AT (1:18 a.m. ET) The #palinemail online archive is complete: 12,045 docs and 24,361 pages scanned and made searchable after just 12 hours. (Not counting the nearly 1,000 days it took for the state to respond to msnbc.com's request under the public records law.) Thanks to the great people at Crivella West for their work today. The archive is hosted by msnbc.com and co-sponsored by Mother Jones magazine and Pro Publica. It's all here.
6:25 p.m. AT (10:25 ET): When the Alaska Legislature appointed investigator Stephen Branchflower to look into possible ethics violations by Gov. Palin's role in the "Troopergate" case, the Palin administration's response was to spread rumors about his wife to attack his credibility. In a series of emails on Aug. 1, 2008, the governor and her aides discussed how to respond to the inquiry. The conversation is heavily censored. The current governor's office withheld most of the e-mail thread. But the progression is clear. It starts with the subject line, "Fw: Branchflower," with questions posed by the Anchorage Daily News, which asked whether the Palin administration's planned to cooperate with the investigation. The content is mostly marked "Privileged or Personal Material Redacted." Then Palin changed the subject line to "Re: Fairness?: Branchflower." We can't see what the governor wrote. Then the governor changed the subject line again, to "Re: MRS.: Fairness?: Branchflower," with this message from her Blackberry and her Yahoo account gov.sarah@yahoo.com: "Just got another call about Mrs. Blanchflower [sic] having retired after working FOR Walt at APD and the conflict involved there." Walt is apparently Monegan, whom she dismissed in a dispute that began with Palin family difficulties with a state trooper who was Palin's former brother-in-law. Press aide Sharon Leighow replies, "I dropped all sorts of questions about linda," referring to Branchflower's wife, "... license lasping [sic] ... Walt association etc." Palin replied again from her Blackberry, "Thank u." That email thread is in this PDF file.
5:54 p.m. AT (9:54 ET):Guess who was in favor of using the public records laws to read emails of state officials and employees? During August 2008, when she was upset about administrationand budgets in the state's Department of Public Safety, Palin sent this email to Randall Ruaro, her deputy chief of staff: "Very, very concerning the 'untruths' coming from them. I am dumbfounded at this, as I have never worked in an organization where these unethical practices seem to go ignored and unanswered. The lack of accountability is appalling in all of this. It is so concerning, the damage that is being done and the public trust that is eroding, that we need to gather as much information as possible, including FOIA-ing emails, tapes, communications in all forms, regarding the untruthful information being spread to the public." The rest of this email, like so many others, was withheld by the governor's office.
5:45 p.m. AT (9:45 ET): When the McCain campaign announced in Sept. 2008 that Palin’s 17-year-old daughter Bristol was five months pregnant, many wondered whether the bombshell news would sink the ticket.
Emails show that as early as April, Palin was trying to quash what she described as rumors about her daughter’s condition. “I wish I could shame people into ceasing such gossip about a teen, but can't figure out how to do that,” she wrote on April 22, 2008. Apparently, the gossip was widespread, and even Palin’s pediatrician had heard about it, which she addressed in another email:
“Hate to pick at this one again, but have heard three different times today the rumor again the Bristol is pregnant or had this baby. Even at Trig's doc appt this morning his doc said that's out there (hopefully NOT in their medical community-world, but it's out there). Bristol called again this afternoon asking if there's anything we can do to stop this, as she received two girlfriend-type calls today asking if it were true.”
Bristol went on to have a healthy boy in late December but plans to marry the child’s father, Levi Johnston, fell apart in the following months. She later was appointed as a teen ambassador for The Candie’s Foundation to raise awareness about teen pregnancy prevention. Tax documents from 2009 show she earned $262,000 for her work.
5:28 p.m. AT (9:28 ET):Do you suppose that most governors try to get their friends and aides to vote in online polls on political issues? From a broadcast e-mail by Palin in November 2007, "On ktuu.com vote on their on-line poll re: disagreeing with today's Ak Supreme Court parental consent opinion" on abortion rights. And "aksuperstation.com also has a poll."
5:16 p.m. AT (9:16 ET):In case you were wondering, Gov. Palin's favorite expletive when she's pleased is "Holy flipping A." When she's not happy, it's "unflippinbelievable."
4:27 p.m. AT (8:27 ET): As the mother of two teens during her time in office, Palin sought some help from her staff in keeping the alcohol in the governor’s mansion away from young people. She wanted it boxed up and “removed from the People’s House,” according to one email dated May 6, 2007.
“Here's my thinking: with so many kids and teens coming and going in that house, esp during this season of celebrationstt for young people - proms, graduations, etc, I want to send the msg that we can be - and "the People' s House" needs to be - alcohol-free. There's a lot of booze there - its too accessible and may be too tempting to any number of all those teens coming and going.”
3:57 p.m. AT (7:57 ET): Gov. Palin's staff ghost-wrote a newspaper op-ed piece for her ally Kristan Cole in 2007, during the controversy over a dairy called Matanuska Creamery. (This is a well-known controversy in Alaska, where the it's known as the Mat Maid dairy. You can read a summary here.) In September 2007, Kristan Cole, Palin's good friend and chairwoman of the creamery's board, submitted an op-ed piece. Deputy press secretary Sharon Leighow sent around an e-mail: "Folks - This is our final draft of the Mat Maid Op/Ed to be submitted on behalf of Kristan Cole. Thoughts?" Palin responded to the group, "i'm tweaking it." The conversation continued the rest of the day, with another aid, Bruce Anders, writing, "I edited substantially from the original, and including some major rewrites and deletions." The public cannot see what was written, or rewritten, because the office of Gov. Parnell, Palin's former lieutenant governor, deleted that content with the note, "Privileged or Personal Material Redacted." What could be privileged or personal about a rewritten ghostwritten op-ed column?
3:31 p.m. AT (7:24 ET): We have 10,494 pages online now, making a final push to get the archive complete today.
3:24 p.m. AT (7:24 ET): Gov. Palin had more than the Yahoo accounts. Not only did she use gov.palin@yahoo.com and gov.sarah@yahoo.com to conduct state business, but she also used sp@hslak.com, an address set up for her by an aide. Very little of her official business went through her official email accounts. Remember, under the state's policy so far, citizens of Alaska are still not able to see emails sent between her private accounts and the private accounts of her staff and department heads. There's more about those holes in the document release, in our main story on msnbc.com.
NBC's Michael Isikoff and Mother Jones' David Corn discuss the newly released Sarah Palin emails.
3:17 p.m. AT (7:17 ET): Early in 2008, Palin wrote an email about a conversation she had with Mike Huckabee, who at the time was locked in a battle with Ariz. Sen. John McCain for the Republican nomination for president. As her Jan. 30 email indicates, Palin was still deciding whom to endorse, but liked what she heard from Huckabee, a Baptist minister and former Arkansas governor.
“He called. Very cool. Unless McCain calls, Huck's a good pick for me, just fyi. He says he's all for gasline and anwr- very cool.”
Of course, McCain did call, many months after he had already cinched the nomination and both Huckabee and Mitt Romney had dropped out of the race. Republicans didn’t officially nominate McCain until September 2008 at the GOP's national convention in Minneapolis-St. Paul, when his decision to pick Palin as his running mate launched her onto the national stage.
3:07 p.m. AT (7:07 ET):Does anyone know about a vandalism case? On May 12, 2008, the state attorney general, Travis Colberg, her old friend from Wasilla, e-mailed the governor with the subject line, "Vandalism case." The entire email is withheld under "confidential/attorney client privilege." We see only her reply from her Blackberry, "Got it. Thank you."
2:45 p.m. AT (6:45 ET): After she was named as Sen. John McCain's running mate, Gov. Palin started getting e-mails from citizens asking whether her attentions were still focused on the state. One citizen asked whether taxpayers still had to pay her salary, now that she was working for the McCain campaign. The governor replied by asking her staff make sure that she appeared to be involved in state issues every day. After an announcement on the state Permanent Fund dividend went out under the name of Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell, Palin wrote to deputy Michael Nizich on Sept. 6, 2008, "As often as possible we'll need to have the announcements come under my name in these next few weeks. Pls let Comm (Communications) know that we need to do that. Thanks. Also - is there anything else to announce soon? Remember we talked about having almost daily annoucements coming from our office w my name on it so alaskans know that still my #1 priority is serving them as Gov."
2:34 p.m. AT (6:34 ET): In one email, dated Jan. 2, 2007 (PDF file opens in a new window), Sarah Palin reminds an aide that even though she’s a hunter, she’s opposed to bear hunting in the McNeil River State Game Sanctuary, 200 square miles of protected wildlife habitat located approximately 250 miles southwest of Anchorage. Her argument invokes fond memories of growing up in Alaska. She writes:
“I am a hunter. I grew up hunting - some of my best memories growing up are of hunting with my dad to help feel our freezer... I want Alaskans to have access to wildlife... BUT - he's asking if I support hunting the bears in the sanctuary? No, I don't... I don't know any Alaskans who do support hunting the McNeil bears that frequent the viewing area. Many Alaskan and Outside visitors view these animals on the McNeil river, within the sanctuary, and, as my parents have reported back after their viewing trip, it's a once-in-a-lifetime experience to see such beauty on that river.”
1:59 p.m. AT (5:59 ET): What one gets from reading emails is often not a spectular fact, but a chance to hear an unvarnished tone. The so-called Troopergate investigation runs through the first years of the emails, with Palin returning again and again to the misbehavior of Mike Wooten, an Alaska State trooper, who is also Palin's ex-brother-in-law and at the time was embroiled with Palin’s sister, Molly McCann, in a contentious child custody dispute. One example, on July 17, 2007, at 6:16 a.m., the governor commented on a legislator's proposal to limit gun purchases by dangerous people. "The first thought that hit me when reading Gara 's quote about people able to buy guns when they're threatening to kill someone went to my ex brother-in-law, who threatened to kill my dad yet was not even reprimanded by his bosses and still to this day has a gun, of course. We can't have double standards. Remember when that death threat was reported, and follow-on threats from Mike that he was going to 'bring Sarah and her family down' - instead of any reprimand WE were told by trooper union personnel that we 'd be sued if we talked about those threats. Amazing. And he's still a trooper, and he still carries a gun , and he still tells anyone who will listen that he will 'never work for that b*itch' (me) because he has such anger and distain towards family. So consistency is needed here. No one's above the law. If the law needs to be changed to not allow access to guns for people threatening to kill someone, it must apply to everyone. Hopefully we'll all meet on this soon , as Gara will be expecting a response soon."
1:31 p.m. AT (5:31 ET):In an email on Aug. 6, 2008, Gov. Palin spots trouble for travel expense records that she describes as "obviously inconsistent and blundered." The Anchorage Daily News had requested copies of records, and the governor (not her staff) noticed that some forms were not signed, others had no explanation of the ttravel purpose, and others were missing entirely from the records being released. "But I'm not going to worry about those either I guess," Palin told her staff. "We need to be prepared to take heat for findings in these Gov's Office travels as some of the TAs (travel authorizations) are obviously inconsistent and blundered."
12:49 p.m. AT (4:49 ET): We now have 4,681 pages online. (Link opens in a new window.)
12:19 p.m. AT (4:19 ET): Just a note for those who enjoy tweaking President Barack Obama for using a teleprompter. (Doesn't every president or governor use a teleprompter for speeches?) On March 20, 2007, Gov. Palin's staff was setting up an interview on natural gas issues with Energy TV from Canada. Here's how the interview was set up: Her aide, Sharon Leighow, asked the questions, and the answers were posted on a teleprompter for Palin to read. Then the fake interview was uploaded by satellite to Energy TV. "You're awesome," the governor told her staff. "You're all awesome. What a day..." Here's a copy of that email. (PDF file opens in a new window.)
12:11 p.m. AT (4:11 AT): In an e-mail on March 18, 2007, Gov. Palin complains that an article in the Juneau Empire newspaper described information being held back fro the public (relating to the transition committee reports on the Alaska Permanent Fund). The Gov. says to her staff, "If there's something you can do to help un-do the records withholding issue that at least three reporters are sort of up-in-arms about, please do so. I campaigned on open and transparent government. I don't know why the issue covered in the article today was ever NOT made public." She says the "gist of the article is so disappointing because it's 180-degrees from where I want to be with information deserving to be seen by the public." The email released today includes a staff statement that no information was withheld. But part of the email today is redacted as a "privileged or personal" matter, so it's not even clear what's being discussed.
11:54 a.m. AT (3:54 PM): The second bite of Palin emails have been uploaded to our online archvive. (Link opens in a new window.) That's a total of 1,732 pages out of 24,199. Bigger batches will come online faster now.
11:28 a.m. AT (3:28 PM): In many cases it appears that Gov. Parnell's office has withheld the attachments from emails. It's common to see emails pointing to an interesting document attached, but that document was not made available today to the public.
11:25 a.m. AT (3:25 PM):An email from February 19, 2007, shows a meeting planned between Palin and Pete Rouse, described as "chief of staff for a guy named Barack Obama." At that point Obama may not have heard of Palin either.
11:14 a.m. AT (3:14 ET):A typical email, on March 8, 2007, from Palin aide Ivy Frye to Gov. Palin: Here's how it looks: "Re: (Privileged) on AK Workforce Investment Board. When you have a minute I need to fill you in on (Privileged or Personal Mater Redacted.) I can better explain via telephone."
10:17 a.m. AT (2:17 ET): The first bite of 533 pages of Palin emails have been uploaded to the online archive. (Link opens in a new window.) That's 533 out of 24,199. Will be coming online quickly now.
10:05 a.m. AT (2:05 ET): Ken LeBlanc of Lenexa, Kan., wants you all to know that he doesn't think we should be posting these public records online for everyone to see. "Sarah Palins Email? Do you really consider this news? Really? They pay you actual money?"
9:49 a.m. AT (1:49 ET):"The thousands upon thousands of emails released today show a very engaged Gov. Sarah Palin being the CEO of her state," said a statement from the treasurer of SarahPAC, Tim Crawford. "The emails detail a governor hard at work. Everyone should read them."
9:44 a.m. AT (1:44 ET): Some of the documents withheld:
The list of withheld documents itself is 189 pages, showing the 2,275 withheld pages, and is online now at msnbc.com. Here's the link to see the large PDF file. Among those emails withheld from the public were those detailing potential state appointees, judicial candidates and others having to do with legal advice, settlements and staffing issues. Others appeared to have nothing to do with state business, such as one message about "children, dinner, and prayer."
Others removed from public view include several having to do with newspapers and editorials, including two citing a “response to Juneau Empire article.” Another two related to a “child custody matter,” and a meeting with “W. Monegan,” who had served as the Alaska public safety commissioner until being dismissed in July 2008 in connection with the scandal known as "Troopergate."
At the time, Palin had reassigned commissioner Monegan because of performance-related issues. Monegan said his forced resignation may have been tied to his reluctance to fire Mike Wooten, an Alaska State trooper, who is also Palin's ex-brother-in-law and at the time was embroiled with Palin’s sister, Molly McCann, in a contentious child custody dispute.
9:25 a.m. AT (1:25 ET):The log of documents withheld by the governor's office is online now at msnbc.com. Here's the PDF file (it's a large file with the list running to 189 pages. The number of pages of e-mails withheld is 2,275.)
9:05 a.m. AT Friday (1:05 ET): The documents were released, and if you were in Juneau you'd see reporters spilling boxes as they try to push handtrucks downhill. Not much handtruck experience among the press corps, apparently. The scanning and reading have begun.
Background
Volunteers from the League of Women Voters and the Retired Public Employees of Alaska have joined us at the city's Centennial Hall convention center to help look at the records.
And a free, public, searchable archive will go online, later Friday, at http://palinemail.msnbc.msn.com, in partnership with Mother Jones and Pro Publica. David Corn at Mother Jones tells the entire saga of the wait for the emails.
If you find interesting documents in either place, post details here, giving enough information to help us find that email so we can provide the full document, in context.
Our staffers from msnbc.com and NBC News are in Juneau, and this blog is where you'll find the latest information from both efforts, the old-fashioned and the new.
Also watch the Twitter feed @OpenChannelBlog, and the Twitter hashtag #palinemail.
Our roundup on Friday's events and the background of the Palin emails is here.
Feel free to post comments here, but let's keep it on topic and civil, please.
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"Personal attacks will be deleted."
Why? This entire process is to find dirt and use it to make personal attacks on Palin.
Well HERE in AMERICA, We Citizens, Have The Right know:
Just How INVOLVED The UNELECTED TODD Palin Was In GOVERNING Alaska.
Why??? Just what business is it of yours. And exactly what is the purpose of this fishing expedition except trying to find any way they can to attack Sarah Palin. Jump off a cliff.
Are you talking to me Rosco? I am asking why they would delete personal attack comments, when their entire premise here is to find dirt on Sarah Palin, that they can then use to attack her personally. It's my business because I am an American.
First rule:
That doesn't include public figures.
3 deleted, sarainitaly derailing about other politicians. Write your own article. Post on-topic.
4 deleted, Mickey Loop spamming their painting website. Banned.
Don't do this, Rosco_t. You haven't commented much - reading the rules again would be a good idea. Follow #1 of the Code of Honor:
This is funny... MSNBC and the Liberal UK paper The Guardian are in Alaska asking people to sort through Sarah Palin's emails???
MSNBC you are one messed up organization. No wonder your ratings are so tanked and you have to constantly take your people off the air for their hateful comments.
Good luck on the witch hunt....
Will there be a translator available?
I cannot understand why THIS is considered news. She is a silly, banal, anachronism and NOT worth the time that it has taken me to comment.
You may all go back to watching Reality TV, now.
I'd sure like to see Obama's records but alas, they have been sealed. Every single one of them. Wonder why that is? Every other presidential candidate's school records have been released but not his. Hmmm.
And would they do this to Barack Obama? Let's make all of his emails from his days as a Senator public! What about all those whose email addresses are now made public? Shouldn't those have been erased / redacted? MSNBC has made a mistake here, in my opinion. Fools.
Is that so Ted? Why don't you post a link to the school records of any past president. Show us your talking points
"Every other presidential candidate's school records have been released but not [President Obama's]."
A completely false statement. School records are private, not public documents, and Presidents have consistently refused to release them. Former President George W. Bush was asked to release his school records and he refused (the records were later leaked despite his refusal.)
You know President Obama went to two of the top Ivy League schools in the country, without a family legacy to help, where he excelled and was at least in the top 5% of his law school class (graduated Magna Cum Laude and editor of Harvard Law Review.) The only real issue is whether he got all As or was there the occasional B+. Grades notwithstanding, I think we have all seen the man has a brilliant intellect, agree or disagree with his agenda.
It is so scary to see the truthiness inherent on the internet, where people loudly proclaim something untrue as fact, so therefore they make it true.
Ted - President Bush did not release his transcripts; they were leaked.
Barbara in Houston - She is a silly, banal, anachronism and NOT worth the time that it has taken me to comment. - But, you did comment, didn't you; which proves you do not believe your own words. She is actually an intelligent woman that obviously threatens something in you. Saying what she believes and also what a great deal of others believe must also threaten you - why Barbara in Houston, are you so afraid of a smart woman that isn't skidish to speak her mind?
Intelligent, maybe (doubtful). Greedy, manipulative, self-serving, self-idolizing, self-aggrandizing, scared, fearful, whiny, and incompetent? Definitely.
The reason they're investigating Palin's emails, as I understand it, was because of the numerous complaints of fraud, misuse of public power, and other possible crimes. The fact that she preferred to use a private email address for public business adds weight to those complaints.
Here's an interesting tidbit: public officials' emails are considered public (unless the US decides to hide them under the label of "state secret"). Many public school teachers (particularly college professors) can attest to this, as many state republican parties have started going through those emails (or even just requesting them) in order to dig up dirt on outspoken professors.
So, explain to me, why should Palin's email accounts be private? And why shouldn't people know who is officially (or unofficially) representing their interests, and more importantly, how?
Barbara in Houston-On a scale of 0-10 for beauty....Palin (10+).You must be a (.5)to be so mean.
Doug- You completely lost me on SP being intelligent. Please provide source.
Also, Neither of you intimidate me. Silly Boy. ;>)
WOMAN IN TEXAS - the only reason that nobody looked or asked for post Pres Obama e-mails is because he wasn't in office long enough to generate any!!! LOL
Think about all the wasted hours and resources for what amounts to a non-story.
If these records should be public, the states, counties, cities and the federal govt should have a methodology so that it does not take additional expense. This way we can all see everything all the time and anyone can bitch about anything until we all turn all of this off.
The price of this incessant ranting about nothing will be that we miss the important stuff as it is diluted with the daily, no, minute by minute mountains of excrement that the media seems hell bent on pushing on us.
Paul F -
They do. It's called "using your f**king public official email account for public official business." Something miss prissy conveniently decided not to do. Whether she "forgot" or had sinister motives, well, that's the whole point of this endeavor.
Barbara, are you saying that you would make it further in politics than SP? I think not...
Why is she getting this much attention???
Because she's a major political figure, Ton. Duh...
Tyler:
Always good to see you appear when needed. Thank you.
Question - who monitors the "First Read" blog? It is the poorest blog I have every seen - with unbelievable insults in almost every comment.
O.R.
I'M facinated how an orgie of hapless political crud can assault and try to devour a women that got involved in what we supposedly say that it's the duty of every american to serve their country in the best way they know.She did her best and now it's time to dismember her ! God, what a miserable bunch we have come to be !
you betcha! Personal attacks on Palin make my day. What a bimbo. Stupid lasts forever sarah!
Liberal article for liberals to build courage on. Keep on cuttin TYLER
I really love the collaped comments, you know the ones that show the article and media for what they really are.
I'm not a big Palin supporter but it tickles the crap out of me the see how Sarah Palin scares the hell out of the liberal puppets.
The US is wasting millions of dollars by bombing countries. The US has a Congressman who is showing his **** to citizens. This same Congressman has admitted to going online with a 17 year old girl. Why is the media so concerned about e-mails from a lady who isn't even in office?
yea, sara palin wanted privacy, that bad bad silly doodle. ignore builderburger, 17 yo girl + cops weinergate news, china saying the usa has defaulted on its debt, obama failed economy, egypts failed hope and change, libyan babies being blown up by obamas illegal war, all of the major credit agencies planning to down grade our rating, the collapse of the dollar, the obama owned greatest depression, obamas war in yemen (#5?), obamas operation gun runner, cartels shooting US law enforcement, bail out theft, QE3, another foreign bank bail out, US billions to bail out greece even though the euro is doomed, iran nukes, israel being invaded and bombed from all sides, communist take over of peru, fascist take over of america, big sis calling for spy on your friends for the state..... I can go on and on.
why oh why won't this "woman" just go away I find her and her family and any news about them frankly most disgusting, most distasteful, this is like foocking high school cliques good girls, mean girls stoner mean dudes and "straights" how juvenile, I for one will no longer view any story about this woman or comment on this "woman" ignore her from now on, hope you can do the same as she does not want you to ignore her, nor does the media providers, they both get more money with every comment. live long and prosper, yes a quote from logical being. bye,, ignore her and them
Clotho,
The scary and brutally true statement you make about the internet and blogs being TRUE may be the downfall of ALL of us. It certainly cements the harsh division between liberal and conservatives. This is true primarily for one reason. When anyone, someone, and all men see a "statement" in PRINT, they believe that statement to be true. It matters not if it is from the New York Times, Wall Street Journal or joe smoe in Wasilla, Alaska. Seeing reinforces believing. Amen, and DANGEROUS!
Oh boy, tyler and Sally will have their hands full with the haters of both political parties on this article over the next few days...
I wish the mass media was this interested in President Obama's past prior to his election.
Just sayin...
WHO GIVES A RAT'S A**? Anyone who would spend time comtemplating anything regarding Palin has definitely got too much time on their hands. She and Donald Trump would make a great couple. They are both spotlight hoggin useless idiots. A total waste of our country's time!
Clotho said: You know President Obama went to two of the top Ivy League schools in the country, without a family legacy to help, where he excelled and was at least in the top 5% of his law school class (graduated Magna Cum Laude and editor of Harvard Law Review.) The only real issue is whether he got all As or was there the occasional B+. Grades notwithstanding, I think we have all seen the man has a brilliant intellect, agree or disagree with his agenda.
It is so scary to see the truthiness inherent on the internet, where people loudly proclaim something untrue as fact, so therefore they make it true.
Pretty much like your statement above Clotho. If Obama had his records sealed (spent $2 million doing it) how do you know what his status was? How do you know what his grades were? How do you know he graduated in the top 5% of his class? The records were sealed, therefore NOBODY knows. I'll tell you how you know it... it's a rumor. It's not a basis of fact. In essence it is scary when people proclaim things based on rumor instead of truth. You don't know what Obama's grades were, nor his graduating status.
I don't think Ms. Palin and her traveling soap opera scare anybody. And somebody in this world actually thinks she's intelligent?! She's Pentecostal, ffs! People who see her as intelligent compare themselves to a low denominator for their numerators.
I don't think anyone of any stripe is scared of Sarah Palin. Of all the would-be manipulative rebuttals she has tried to spread via her little lost lambs, the claim that she is capable of scaring anyone is the silliest.
Jansince - you understand wrong - that is a cover to get the emails - 16 of the 18 charges against Palin were "frivilous" and dismissed as such.
From paying attention and research, the special prosecuter over the family travel used the threat of lawsuit to have the Palins re-imburse the state - they had followed the law which did not exclude travel outside the state - the prosecutor even admitted such.
The only charge with any real substance was the "abuse of power" That was for not controlling the staff - to which before the emails were released only from the ethics report Todd was shown to be doing anything. According to the emails one staffer was spreading Trooper Gate rumors. Wow - that's really evil (sarcasm).
The closest thing to sticking on this lady is "manipulative". Well, the difference between "manipulative" and getting the job done is a matter of being politically for or against someone. Pretty little stuff to be quarreling over don't you think?
Brian
The only real issue is whether he got all as or was there the occasional B+. From being in those academic lists myself - What once cost me Magnum Cum Laude was a part time professor who after over three years still hadn't turned in a grade (it was anticipated to be an "A"). It was an extra elective for me, but the A would have made me Magna Cum Laude. BTW I had 2 D's (both professor issues) - both answered later by A's and B's in later classes.
My sister is a licensed Veternarian - and had to go through a professor relegated to her med school courses because he was failing an irrationally high number of people.
Obama has not released his records, and from being their - I can tell you work ethic is more important in obtaining scores than actual intelligence - because if you don't work hard enough, the intelligence alone won't get you those honors - unless something foul was going on. And foul things do occur - there was some dude who was at MIT a couple of years ago - lied about his qualifications - was doing just fine - but someone figured it out the deceit during academic review for graduation and he got expelled.
It's amazing how many liberals and the media hates this woman, to the point that in their blindness do not see the ridiculousness of their actions. I can only laugh when reading many of these comments about Palin's emails and heself. Garbage collectors have not yet found anything to crucify Palin. She is going to come out clean this witch hunt and is going to laugh in the face of the liberals and the press that both hate her.
This is ridiculous. Why does the mainstream media keep trying to bury this lady? Why don't they get hold of Obama's email history before he became President? Their time would be much better-spent, I guarantee it. They would find out more facts that he is a Marxist based politician out to destroy capitalism and our way of life, and have EVERYTHING controlled by the government. Tax the hell out of everything, then waste it on social programs for the baby factories that pay no taxes at all. I guess they won't do it because Obama is their messiah.
Forget about Palin.
Birth certificate ring a bell?
Oh oskar, we don't hate her. We pity her.
Big difference.
Rorschach-
The birth certificate issue was far different and far less invasive than this. It was a political ploy by Obama, a game played by someone with the mentality of a small child, Obama, to eventually try to make the other side look bad just before the election. Thanks to Trump, he was forced to "play his cards" early. Obama is an incompetent President that is trying to destroy this country.
DOUG893 is really Sarah Palin. Intelligent woman?? Nice try Sarah!!!
Look at all the PEOPLE "distracted" by this news of Sarah Palin, a now household name.
This news article and reading MANY comments here has left me with a glaring and startling conclusion.....
JOE PUBLIC in America has degraded to nothing more then distracted, media guided, angry, citizens who have lost any "focus" on family, freedom and the pursuit of happiness our country was founded on.
Sarah Palin is the queen of media distraction while the Federal Reserve and it's fractional lending policies took another $1.27 from your money today and everyday. Tomorrow you will be posting about Obama's dog and it will be up to $2.19 taken from you.
Here is a link for most posting here to continue on your journey.... http://www.tmz.com/
I am seriously wondering if America is not in some deep doo doo.... at its core values.
Shame on you MSNBC and everything you stand for.... you are not a news station, you are a MEGA MEDIA DISTRACTION and provide serious tabloid news.
I wonder how much money was wasted having attorneys pore over 22,000 pages of documents to 'redact' information that was not eligible for public release? As for the media, they can spend lifetimes going over it if they wish - can't wait for the 'spin' they give the docs.
As for complaints about Todd Palin being cc'd, what's wrong with having an unpaid consultant giving advice? I'm sure the federal government has plenty of them.
So far, I'd call this 'witch hunt' a big bust.
PS - I'd love to see a similar FOI request for Obama's emails while in the Illinois and U.S. Senates, along with Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Of course, most of them are probably not as 'technologically savvy' as Palin and Obama, so the result might be just a few pages each.
how do you feel about the Easter Bunny?
Rorschach,
The Easter Bunny would make a better President than Obozo.
I am becoming more liberal the longer she is out there representing American women. I am not going to vote Republican, but there has to be a couple of intelligent women in that party. My aunt was a Republican politician during the 80s, even worked for Reagan. My sister is a successful businesswoman and has always voted to the right. Where are the female leaders in the Republican party who don't embarrass our entire gender?
As to why I'm interested in all Palin's emails, it's a great insight into her as a person. I approve of her removing alcohol from the Governor's Mansion because of the large number of teenagers in and out of her home. I understand her being upset with the pettiness of the media (both sides, BTW), but I do wonder about her need for so many private email accounts, and why she would use them to conduct official government business.
Doesn't that bother any of her followers?
Anybody else find this stuff boring? If this is excitement for you, I think you'd better figure out how to enjoy life.
A couple of lessons to be learned from this. The left is absolutely obsessed with Palin and they view her as the biggest threat to Obama. (In reality, Obama is the biggest threat to Obama). But, for all politicians, if you haven't figured it out yet, you do not email anything that you don't want the world to see. That means you are required to spend more taxpayer money to have personal meetings with anyone you want to talk to privately. Even that will be no guarantee of privacy, but it is better than emails. I find the idea that you can't have a personal private email account while serving in office absolutely appalling. No way should emails or letters between politicians and family members or even just friends that are not involved in state business be made public. Heck, anyone who has ever negotiated anything knows that things are said that can be twisted into something that it isn't. Do we really want our politicians to be restricted in what they say and the information they receive? This is really scary stuff.
Oh, and if this article is what the loony left has to offer on Palin, they really should hang it up. It makes you look stupid. Well, thinking about that, maybe truthful is appropriate.
Palin would not be my first choice as President, but she certainly has my respect and admiration for standing up to the the 'mob frenzy' created by the media circus! Great courage.... something that is lacking in our elected officials these days.... Weiner for example and Pelosi... gosh I could go on forever listing the weak spined wacko left complainers both on this blog and in Congress and yes, in the White House.
Vote 'em all out before it's too late. Too much attention is directed in these silly issues... meanwhile we (USA) can't even pay the interest on its debt. Such fools are the liberals...
Yes, such fools are the liberals. Instead of more than doubling the defense budget and making it three times that of all the other 25 NATO nations combined like the conservatives did, you would think us fools would have quadrupled it instead just to out do those really smart conservatives huh?
Palin is a great example of the above average intelligence of the conservatives. She is the very best they have to represent themselves and should be on every conservative ticket in 2012.
I will agree though that these emails were a waste of tax payers time and resources as all it did was give the conservatives the opportunity to go through them all and purge them of anything that could possibly be destructive to not only the Palins but any other governmental employee that may have conspired with the Palins to push personal agendas such as the ANWAR projects. To think it took them more than 900 days to go through these records of Sarah Palins is foolish. More than likely they also purged anyone that had any dealings or mentioning in the Palin reords as well before the release of the non incriminating parts that weren't blacked out or completely omitted.
This email thing sounds more like a 'witch hunt' than real investigative reporting! How low have we sunk that we would attack someone like Palin, while turn a cheek to the actions of someone like Weiner? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Palin no longer holds office at this time and Weiner does.....right? Weiner is responsible representing a large segment of Americans in Queens/Brooklyn yet these days his only trying to keep his pants up! Yet the focus of the liberals/left/socialists, progressive/misc. wackos is what Palin (a private citiizen today) might have said in an email years ago! What is wrong with this picture?
Are the liberals that afraid of their position come 2012? I think that might be the case.... :)
Barbara, little FULL of yourself !!!!!! I'll be looking for your next NEWS CONFERENCE !!!!!!!
There were 31 patient Alaskans reading their public records.
Must have been all conservatives. 24,000 pages divided by 956 days equals 25.1 pages processed a day by these 31 conservatives. That means it took each one of these 31 people more than a day to read, interpret, strike and omit any damning evidence per page. I think I actually would have more questions for these 31 patient people than I would the Palins to begin with. More than a day a page per person!
$262,000 to be a spokesperson for teen-pregnancy? Nice gig for a teenager.
Roy,
Tod was not elected by the voters. That's like saying all governors, congressman, mayors, presidents could/should cc their spouses as well. Or do you think Palin is special. Roy, would you allow this kind of chaos on both sides or only when Palin is involved?
Palin hates hurtful gossip and yet has rumors spread about her opponents.
^hypocrisy for emphasis!^
Derek
Do you have an example of the rumors that she had "spread about her opponents."
Give an example each of Before and After any of her elections.
slodon,
Since A rumor is viewed as "an unverified account or explanation of events circulating from person to person and pertaining to an object, event, or issue in public concern, the whole birth certificate fiasco that she was part of would be a rumor. Also, Obama's dealth panels that she would repeat over and over would also be considered a rumor.
She could never verify either but yet she continued to spread her "message."
Bayllie- The death panel is not a rumor, it would happen! I just lost a friend in the UK that had cancer. She returned to the states to die with her family. The first doctor she had seen in America asked if she was treated with a certain procedure overseas, and when she replied that she didn't, the doctor explained that it would have been the first procedure that we would have used here, and it probably would have saved her life. The only reason she didn't receive the treatment was because the UK health system decided that it was not a viable treatment...now i'm pretty sure that the decision was made by a panel to cut cost, and in her case, yes, it was a death panel. You don't think that will happen here?
It already does - you ever try dealing with the actuarial department at an insurance company? They decide if the cost of the treatment is too high, well "Tough luck, Chuck."
"Long before anyone started talking about government "death panels" or warning that Obama would have the government ration care, 17-year-old Nataline Sarkisyan, a leukemia patient from Glendale, California, died in December 2007, after her parents battled their insurance company, Cigna, over the surgery. Cigna initially refused to pay for it because the company's analysis showed Sarkisyan was already too sick from her leukemia; the liver transplant wouldn't have saved her life."
The Doctors didn't make that decision. The "bean counters" at Cigna (who have no medical training at all), made that decision.
"In June 2008, Robin Beaton, a retired nurse from Waxahachie, Texas, found out she had breast cancer and needed a double mastectomy. Two days before her surgery, her insurance company, Blue Cross, flagged her chart and told the hospital they wouldn't allow the procedure to go forward until they finished an examination of five years of her medical history -- which could take three months. It turned out that a month before the cancer diagnosis, Beaton had gone to a dermatologist for acne treatment, and Blue Cross incorrectly interpreted a word on her chart to mean that the acne was precancerous.
Not long into the investigation, the insurer canceled her policy. Beaton, they said, had listed her weight incorrectly when she bought it, and had also failed to disclose that she'd once taken medicine for a heart condition -- which she hadn't been taking at the time she filled out the application."
I've even been subjected to this - I have to take an immuno-suppressant due to an organ transplant. My insurance company initially refused to cover this drug that I must take for the rest of my life because it was deemed "not medically necessary". It took 2 months of playing ring-around-the-bureaucrat before they relented.
Mark L-464288
then US already has death panels as well. Look up how many people are denied life-saving surgeries. Look up how many are denied insurance due to pre-existing conditions. Those are death panels!
Type in "insurance denies surgery" and see what pops up.
By the way, the word "would" is not the same as "is." Not even close.
Bayllie- Then that would make it a fact...By the way, the word "Rumor" is not the same as "Fact." Not even close.
This is a joke, right? I am both liberal and a registered Democrat, and I think this smells. I strongly dislike Palin and what she stands for, but come on folks! Isn't this what we on the sane/intelligent side of political spectrum hate about the dark side? Don;t you understand that you are all just feeding the Beast! You make her stronger by doing this!
And just why exactly is she the beast??? And why do you strongly dislike Palin and what she stands for??? I guess you're against common decency and religion. Most liberals are. I commend you for calling this witchhunt what it is but why is there one in the first place???
Although I can't speak for all Democrats out there, I personally dislike Palin for two simple reasons.
1) She can barely string a coherent, intellengent sounding sentence together. I know there are many people who don't believe that this particular skill is important or necessary for a person in a powerful political position. Perhaps I am just being picky, but for some reason whenever I imagine Sarah Palin speaking with delegates from other countries...well, I just don't see them taking her very seriously. She lacks substance and plays to emotions instead. The fact that you immediately jump to the assumption that anyone who dislike's Palin must therefore dislike "common decency and religion" only serves to futher prove that point.
2) I despise any "professional" who hasn't taken the time or energy to emerse themselves in the subject with which they are supposedly "professionals" in. I don't go to a doctor who hasn't bothered to keep up with medical practices. Why would I put my faith in a policitian who doesn't bother to keep up with policitial issues. Time and again Palin has shown that she has limited knowledge about a whole slew of policitial issues, not to mention basic US history.
Rosco_t: he wasn't calling Palin a beast. You might need to chill a bit. Feeding the beast sounds like it was a reference that this process is only making things worse. Oh and I don't like Palin because she tries to dumb herself down by sounding hokey and tries WAY TOO hard to sound like "plain folk." It's annoying.
Just out of curiosity jokester, of what basic history has Palin demonstated limited knowledge?
James Lee, You obviously have not listened to her recent 'word salad' recount of Paul Revere's ride. However it is NOT in this subject alone that she has demonstrated a lack of the 'basics'. My personal favorite was her statement (sic) that Africa was a Country not a Continent. And then in the same subject, World Geography, the on going saga of Russia, Korea(sic) there are TWO, and which one of them is our ally. I could go on and on but I find the subject enervating.
One more thought: She is the epitome, of the 'dumbing down' in America, and yet had the NERVE to mock a Teacher!
"emerse" ????? oh you mean immerse
most liberals are against decency and religion? LOL, what a silly comment. you've been listening to fox news too much. Unless you can prove it, of course..go for it!
I dislike palin (as a political candidate) because 1) she couldn't even finish out one term as governor? We don't need quitters. 2) she's quite content in not knowing much about anything but very happy to think that she knows what should be done. The people who don't even know that they don't know are the truly dangerous ones. 3) she was so incurious about the world that, even though she lived close to canada and other countries (remember, she could see russia!) she had no interest in a passport until a few years ago. the most powerful person in the world should be more interested in the world.
See, not a thing there has to do with decency and religion. :)
Thank you Barbara.
In regard to Palin's account of Paul Revere's ride, she actually is somewhat accurate. In a twisted sort of way, Revere did indeed warn the British, but that was not the primary purpose of his ride. Revere's own account of his conversation with the British is given by his own words following:
When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back, and ordered me to dismount; one of them, who appeared to have the command, examined me, where I came from, and what my Name Was? I told him. He asked me if I was an express? I answered in the affirmative. He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up.
(You can read Revere's actual letter just by Googling "Paul Revere's Capture Letter" if you seek authentication.)
I must admit that I did not know prior to Palin's pronouncement that Revere was captured after his ride. So, in that sense, she is more aware of American History than am I.
On the other hand, I saw no evidence in the letter that guns or bells were mentioned, so there may be other historical records that reference those aspects of her report.
As far as the Africa = Country or the two on-going sagas of Russia and Korea and which is our ally, I find it a bit too "enervating" to try to decipher what she meant. Our ally is South Korea. Is that what she meant? I have no idea. She obviously was not crystal clear in expressing herself.
But at any rate, I appreciate you answering on the jokester's behalf. I still would like to see his response.
Please take care.
I wouldn't bother, Vermontguy; Port o' Call mentioned that horrible "L" word, and now Rosco is having a seizure and going straight to his partisan talking points. It's a sad, sad country where we're taught to hate one another based on what purely arbitrary titles we are given, so much so that we can't even see or hear the argument put forth by the opposite party as we're trying to think of new ways to attack them for their political affiliations. Rosco has been infected, and thinks that liberal = attacks on decency (what a joke) and religion. It's just as sad as my friend who believes that conservative = heartless and eager to abuse human rights. Neither perception is true, but it may be too late for people in this country to realize that.
Back to the topic: Sarah Palin is one of those "new age Christian" types who feels that parents need to be released from the burden of parenting (as evidenced by her push for nationwide abstinence-only sex education, and maybe in favor of banning books involving sorcery or such in school libraries [can't recall if she was for that, but I know a lot of like-minded politicians think our kids are dumb as rocks]); favors a return to the union of church and state (does anybody else remember those days? When people could pay indulgences and sin away, or when the church ran brothels, and when the Popes were symbols of excess and debauchery? Not to mention the whole Holy War thing between Catholics and Protestants), and claims that she will be firm on foreign policy and not bother with any of that "diplomacy" stuff, while continually exposing herself as ignorant of these people whom she would so happily invade. I don't mind an idiot figurehead, but Palin is a strong woman, and I do believe that she would try to pass legislation to reform this country in an image she prefers.
James Lee,
He got captured, his ride wasn't to warn the British. That wasn't his goal he was captured and then interrogated, he spilled the beans. Had he not got captured the Brits wouldn't know, There is a difference. Palin is still wrong.
OK Alice, what's the deal? You don't sound evil at all.
thisisajoke:
1) Have you ever listened to our President without the benifit of a Teleprompter? He's a stutterin fool.
2) Obama ain't no better, he still thinks it's 2008.
3) A "community organizer" does not a President make.
1) Do you remember listening to George Bush? He should have used a teleprompter. (Fool me once, lol)
2) I doubt George Bush knew what year it was the entire time he was in office.
3) A Texas Oil Man makes a great president, if you don't mind being lied to, thrown into illegal wars and then plung the country into a depression? I'm just sayin'!
Port o Call,
What DO you stand for? Marxism, like Obama? A destruction of what made our country great- Capitalism?
Please explain.
What Sarah Palin "stands" for is... Sarah Palin.
She's the Milli Vanilli of American politics -- minus the talent.
Personally, what I really dislike is the gullibility of that segment of voters who can actually believe that a person like her has any business in public office. This has nothing to do with religion or "values" -- I have both. What I see is a person who has neither, but campaigns on both regardless. There's no substance here -- no steak, all sizzle.
I don't need a Sarah Palin to guide my beliefs or my standards. I do far better without the "help" of people like her.
ajackz13:
If by 2 illegal wars you mean to go before congress and get their approval you would be wrong.
If by commiting US forces in Lybia without congressional approval you would be right.
Port o' Call " I strongly dislike Palin and what she stands for"
Just out of curiosity, which of her policies do you 'strongly dislike' about Palin;
Her stand for fiscal restraint?
Her stand for Family values?
Her stand for Women's rights?
Her stand for a strong America?
Her stand for Children's rights?
Her stand for balancing the budget?
Her stand for self-sufficiency?
Her stand for reforming education?
I have a hard time understanding why there is such hatred for her.
By the way, I'd be willing to bet that her SATs (indicates IQ) were better than Obama's, since she graduated from high school with honors, while Obama did not.
And Bush was not responsible for the world wide recession experienced in 2008. When are you people going to give up on that lie. Nobody but far left wing liberals believe that.
@ Roy Wilson, re: #4.17:
You see all that? Funny, I see a carnival barker with a similar level of ethical integrity. Talk is cheap and that's about all she's got.
Presidents Reagan and Clinton were responsible for the great recession of 2008.
What exact Obama policies make you believe that he is a Marxist? Or do you just say that because it "sounds" right to you? Please explain in detail what you believe a Marxist is. I am listening.
PO, and just who the HELL ARE YOU, that anyone owes you an explanation for diddly squat!!!!!
I like Palin because she's bright and quick enough not to need a teleprompter every time she speaks to a crowd of more than two! And the only vacation she needs is to walk out her back door where I understand on a clear day she can see Russia!
I also like Palin because she can play the liberals like a violin! Magnificent! This email frenzy was quite entertaining, better than Saturday morning cartoons! What will she do to them next, I wonder? Keep it up girl!
I think it's a very fair question. All the "MarxistSocialistPinko" ranting and no coherent explanation of exactly how you reach that conclusion?
And you vote?? Without understanding what you're voting for?
RoyWilson:
I want to put out there that I don't know, nor do I care whether either of these people graduated HIGH SCHOOL with honors. If you taught in our schools, you would know that most often the hardest working students who have the highest grades and get those honors. The most intelligent students quite often produce mediocre work because of the boredom of a system that uses repetition and testing as a form of teaching. These are the minds wasted in our education system. The "good" student learns to play the game as we have set up our education system. At the end of the game they get the prize and sometimes it's graduating with honors.
The gifted, problem solvers will not play the game and one day they will grow up to find the cure for cancer, design a bigger aircraft that will save us money and make it possible for us to move our communities to a higher level. Graduating with Honors from high school means squat in the real world.
I must admit that I am curious about Palin and why anyone would think she would make a good president.
She is not bright at all when it comes to reading, education, politics but she does know a thing or two about making money for herself and keeping her name in the media.
Sarah has more intellectual heft than the current occupant of the Oval Office ... and this poster. None of this emails will help the Left's cause of destruction of Mrs. Palin.
i have the same thought about the sitting POTUS
Palin, while not particularly intelligent, has a slyness and sneakiness that helps her with her ever-diminishing followers. She knows they covet symbolism and catchphrases above actual knowledge, conversation and ideas, and she wallows in it. Looks at the monstrosity of a bus she has now. Draped in American flags and Constitutions, she is sly about imagery and packaging her Palin brand. When she talks, her bizarre word salads are a string of random words having to do with "patriotic", "guns", "true 'merkins" and "flag".
The irony, of course, is that symbols are nothing but that: symbols. She seems to have very little idea as to what the American flag actually stands for, or what the U.S. Consitution means. That said, symbols in the wrong hands can be a very powerful, destructive force, if those people don't understand what they actually mean or attempt to usurp them for their own selfish purposes.
She also happens to be a very fake person most of the time. Watch those moments when she is embarrassed, humiliation or caught in a lie, and you see the nastiness and rudeness that she really carries within her. She has a really mean spirit that comes out when anyone dares cross her.
How many time have you headed the Harvard Law review, Poet? I guarantee you Sarah hasn't.
You have have just defined "Politician" it is a character trait they all have. Did just have a similar display from a Weiner this past week? Who cares what party they belong to they all are the same low lifes.
Wow, you really are uninformed. Have you read Sarah Palin's book? Can you even read? She's the only Governor to balance a state's budget and create a surplus which was returned to the taxpayers. She's honest and has morals and family values which are qualities our current administration laughs at. I wish she would run for President. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat! Try watching real news on FOX and not the network news that's been bought by George Soros! Haven't you noticed that all network and local news reports nothing but how to stay fit by using a hula-hoop and how to keep your dog from eating your garden?
Hey Bob,
You said it yourself she knows how to make money, so does Obama. Tell Timothy to print more.
I'm with you Bob, women are too dumb to be in politics - they should stay in the kitchen where they belong.
If Soros is bad Murdoch is worse. They all have their obfuscation, disinformation, and irrelevancy agendas.
With all this free publicity she could very well be elected. Most Republicans and moderates feel that Ms. Palin is un-electable and that is why we have such a big problem understanding why MSNBC wants to spend so much time attacking her. And what is going on amounts to nothing more than character assassination.
Help? She doesn't need help, she's destroyed herself quite nicely all by her lonesome.
When Palin actually writes one, let me know.
Many Americans have concerns about the current POTUS! And many have greater concern about the direction the country is headed.... serious concerns!
The only thing filling the heads of liberals these days is their undisguised hatred for Sarah Palin and they can't understand why anyone should expect Weiner to resign for such a minor indescretion! lol! Wake up folks!
Just curious....are any media organizations putting this kind of fevered effort into researching the e-mails of Mr. Obama when he was serving as an Illinois State Senator or U.S. Senator ??? Seems to me that a look into the politically formulative years of the President of the United States would be a bit more important than scouring thru past e-mails of a person whose only real power is the ability to draw television cameras.
Bill T...
Imagine if the media had found out that Ms. Palin had "twittered" naked photos of herself ??? Her political career would have been finished in about 30 seconds.
Kind of like "Change we can believe in" eh CLOTHO....
C'mon people. Maybe they will discover how eloquent, well-read, and utterly brilliant she is. Perhaps each and every email will be a clear work of genius and she'll ride the wave of good will right down Pennsylvania Avenue.
I really wish this would happen because I would then have a reason to say something positive about her. As for now, I don't.
dgstan, Your statement was meant as a jest, right?
Made me laugh. :) Lovely sarcasm.
Does this mean that we'll be able to view the email of EACH and EVERY political figure?
Public information requests can be made on certain public bodies of work made by elected public officials. They often take time but there is no special treatment here other than people or media actually have to want to put out the request in the first place.
Any elected official knows this from day one of their time in office and should have no excuse for putting anything damaging or inappropriate in those emails to begin with.
Yeah, EACH and EVERY political figure, if they're using personal Yahoo accounts for professional and political purposes. Yeah, if they're teeter-tottering on every issue from the Bridge to Nowhere to whether or not they fired a state trooper for absolutely no reason other than to get back at him for pissing off their sister. She's a crook and now that three years have passed, it's obvious that some of us are scratching our heads going "Wait, why do I hate her again? It's not just cuz she's a stupid bimbo who relentlessly plays the victim card... there was something else... what was it what was it?" I doubt they'll find anything in 250 "pounds" of emails, though. Because they took three years to release them. They printed them first. That means they've been filtered. Hi, duh. If they weren't filtered, why not give the press full access? Why not full access three years ago?
Only the ones who repeatedly broke the law like Sarah Palin.
Or complete fools such as Oscar Meyer Weiner.
And what laws did she break? Come on enlighten us all Toasty, supposedly you are one of the intellectual left.
Rick, no point, they are media sheep. There is no hope for them! they complain about the time it took to release the info but their savior does the same thing and it's OK, hmmm... not even just OK, its not OK if you question him. The other side must really be terribly ignorant to not see, that they really are just that. I am glad I am not so ate up I have to read 24,000 pages of somebodies email, looking for something, anything. release everyones email, if you ask someone everyone breaks laws (right toasty?), and every congressman is a fool (right androloma?)just about! So release it all! So it can waste all of somebodies time, but not mine. I bet everyone has something in their email someone will be offended by. but it seems to me Sarah Palin is more of a witch hunt, its pretty sad really when you think it. not just sad but PATHETIC. so she wanted to build a road near home town, WOW. look at all pork barrel spending by congress, and where does that money get spent? yeah, your thinking the same thing I am, the other side are idiots. but sure if anyone wants to tell what laws she broke I'm all for your explanation.
I don't ever recall hearing this being done on,not only any other potential candidate, but on any other citizen of this supposedly free country. Do people out there really care what Sarah Palin wrote in her emails? I have a hard time believing people are that ridiculous and not only msnbc but practically every politician should get a life and try to do something productive. If you don't like her....don't vote for her but for heaven's sake, let the lady live her life which is what everybody deserves without constant scrutiny from the media. I just think this shows how frightened everyone at msnbc is of her....Did I miss something, or did they ask for Obama's emails since before he was born a senator?
Yes, you missed something. Public records requests are made on all potential U.S. Presidential candidates. Palin drew a spotlight onto her because of the three-year delay in fulfilling the request, including the lawsuits her people filed to stop it.
Yes, Palin is a "citizen", but she was also a government employee and a public figure. I see that you are supportive of a free country, which includes a transparent government. This means that the work that Governor Palin performed is available to all citizens as public records (with certain, narrowly tailored exceptions.)
The difference is that Palin's administration is known for breaking the law.
Toasty........Where in the msnbc hell do you get that from? You are full of @!$%#. Stop qouting other bloggers and find the truth!
Here's the truth -
"In light of the evidence that the governor expressly authorized the creation of the trust and the fact the trust website quite openly uses the governor's position to solicit donations, there is probable cause to believe that Governor Palin used, or attempted to use, her official position for personal gain in violation of Alaska statute...payment of the governor's legal fees by the Alaska Fund Trust will violate the Ethics Act prohibition against a public officer accepting gifts intended to influence performance of official duties." - Statement by Alaska Personnel Board independent counsel Timothy Petumenos, June 24, 2010
And that was the reason she gave for resigning as governor. That frivolous lawsuits and false accusations were costing the state and wasting too much of her time as governor.
I think the idea, here, is to find out if she has done anything that is against the law, or lied. She IS a politician, after all, so that shouldn't be too tough. I am not going to bother myself, but I am quite certain there are a number of questionable things.
While I'm not a huge fan of Palin, I find this ridiculous. Why not do all public officials at this point. We've seen most don't have an honest bone in their bodies so why pick on just one?
Jonah, you are quite certain there are a number of questionable things. Do you mind sharing what it is that causes you to be "quite certain?"
Thank you.
James...
Don't waste your time will these people. "I don't really know anything about anything, but I'm 'quite certain' Ms. Palin was breaking the law all the time"....great research there.
Americans have to get a legal license to be able to drive a car on public roadways...too make the government does require people to get a license before they are able to post their viewpoints on the public airwaves.
Why are they doing this? And why did they not to it to Obama?
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Because Obama never used his wife in matters of the State... and to what extent this was done may (doubt it) be revealed in these emails from The Lipstick Loon.
Apparently you prefer to attack the President without understanding when a politicians emails are released.
Here's a hint. Not while they are serving.
Here's a better question to ask. Why did it take nearly 3 years to release Sarah's emails? After all, that is what this article is about and not our current President.
how do you know? lets find out and open all Mr Obamas records tweets and e mails ? how about starting with his grades Hmmm..How about his blackberry come on folks lets do it and find out what this Puppet is up tooo.i am all for it on both sarah and Barry...plus we need more Weiner.POS fools all of them
They’re doing this because in 2008 she was, with good reason, the poster child for controversy. Troopergate. Google it. All she is capable of is manipulation, lies and embarrassing anything and anyone she’s associated with. How soon we forget what a complete scumbag she has always been. If it weren’t bad enough that she’d help represent our country as the laughing stock of the world and has NO business making important decisions for the well-being of the nation, but if you spend just five minutes familiarizing yourself with the debacles of 2008, you’ll see (if you have two brain cells to your name) that her moral compass needs to be recalibrated. And yes, the same could be said for many, many politicians. Schwarttzaweiner. I get it. But if you have the audacity to sit there and say that President Obama has not had his privacy violated you are clearly… Well, dumb enough to vote for Palin. Which has all of us relatively intelligent people pretty concerned.
The point is that Obama was not scrutinized at all by the mainstream press. No one has seen even his college transcripts, his dissertation, anything. The guy started his political career in the living room of a terrorist, and patterned his political ideology after a well-known communist. For 20 years, he went to the church of a Black Liberation theologian and anti-semite who curses America and believes it deserved 9/11. And that isn't the half of it. Obama has ties that would sink any other candidate, were the media doing its job reporting it (not turning a blind eye, as they've always done with this President).
What speaks volumes of Palin is that you can go through 24,000 emails, and you won't find anything that even comes close to one of Obama's many pronounced lapses in judgement. And I say that with confidence. To me, and millions of other Americans, this is yet more evidence as to why she, even as a VP candidate, would've been better suited than Obama to be POTUS (even WITHOUT taking into account, her governorship experience).
This whole exercise, when taking into account the absence of due-diligence on the other side, is utterly ridiculous, and even more so, laughable!
Dan, no offense. But you're completely so full of @!$%# I'm not even going to argue with you. I don't argue with people who don't know the facts.
"The point is that Obama was not scrutinized at all by the mainstream press." Are you effing kidding me?
Go wipe the santorum off your chin and read a book.
No JB...he's NOT kidding you, and he's correct. The media has always turned a blind eye to the many controversial people and issues surrounding Obama. They buried things and didn't run stories that could be proven with documents, video, audio etc. They simply wanted him to win office and are absolutely guilty of withholding information that they would have otherwise reported on to the American public. It's a liberal machine with zero ethics and zero credibility.
Show me some proof...real proof that Obama was vetted by the media the way you say he was. Good luck finding it. He was protected by the media at every turn.
Dan and FedUp.....notice how the liberals on here (and any of these blogs) use curse words and can't back what they are saying....they just say "you don't know what you are talking about" and "do your research" and comments like this. If you want a real black president running this country I suggest that everyone out there vote for Herman Cain....the man is very well spoken, doesn't need a teleprompter and would get this economy back on track. In my eyes he would be the first black president of the U.S.. Oh, and I am getting sick of the racist word being thrown all over the place....if you don't agree with Obama's policies you are a racist.....give me a break.
We would be living in a great depression right now with a President McCain.
We are living in a great depression. Sort of - there is no great recovery. Obama's policies, starting day 1, have made the economy much worse.
McCain would not have rushed out an $900 billion stimulous bill within his first 20 days (remember how it just had to pass immediately or we would be in bad trouble?) - the fact is that it did nothing. Not only has it only been half spent (why rush something that you can't spend immediately) but all it did was give checks to people who didn't pay taxes (that's the "tax cuts" you keep hearing about) and also gave money to unionized entities. That is NOT a stimulous!! So where was the SCRUTINY there? And where was it on Obamacare? Nowhere.
And people do not do public record requests on all presidential candidates - this is completely unprecedented (and frankly I think hylsterical) actions against a private citizen. No one asked for Obama's e-mails while he was running. No one asked for Hillary's e-mails. No, for some reason we must analyze the e-mails of a VP candidate. Unflipping believable.
All of you haters are not patriots or care about this country at all. You should be ashamed of yourself. And as for intelligence (do I need to say Obama didn't know how many states we have) but just look at Obama try to explain the economy - he has no frickin' clue about anything. That's is completely symbolized in the failed stimulous and Obamacare. (And for the record the financial meltdown was handled by TARP which was passed under Bush - that's what save the meltdown - Obama has just made it worse by spending more money and pursuing uber liberal policies).
Tom that is what I was thinking it seems that Palin is the only one to draw this much attention. No one can show any school transcripts for Obama no one remembers him being in their class. Yet we just blindly accept that he is who he says he is. Let see his email while he was in office before the white house. I don't think we will see anything on him. Look how many years it took to get a birth cert. and you think getting Palin's email took a long time.
I like Palin because she is like the regular person not a fake. She tell it like it is not beating around the bush. Most people who don't like her because she speaks the truth and they just don't want to hear that. They wound rather believe the lies in their own head.
I can't begin to tell you all the stupid things that Obama has said and done. I just don't have that kind of time. But most of you know what they are so I don't have to tell you.
God Bless people like S. Palin.
barack hussein obama was a media creation......the media created him out of NOTHING and he is still NOTHING...... he has sheeple that follow him like zombies because they want freebees off the backs of workers but pretty soon, there won't be any more workers under this administration. then what will you obama moochers do?????? who will give you freebees then???????
Ashamed of my country for 1st time,
Actually you should be ashamed of yourself! Not that you are not a patriotic citizen, rather than you probably actually believe what you posted in #10.15. You should be ashamed of your lack of the ability to think critically and logically and it is a definite sign of ignorance to be self deceptive. Also, as you conservatives love to say to liberals, you can leave the U.S. anytime you wish. Be our guest, make your move!
This guy was proud of his country starting unnecessary wars and killing hundreds of thousands of people.
And I am sure if we had the e-mail records for Obama or Bush or Weiner we would also find similar things. ALL politicians are full of it with just a handful of exceptions.
so how do we obtain the emails of obama while he was in Illinois politics--also during his VERY SHORT tenure as Senator--we all know how crooked politics is in Illinois--Chicago mayors and illinois governors--fair is fair--but considering how biased the media is--forget it--unless Fox makes requisition for these emails
Millions of emails from the bush administration were conveniently deleted.
We should get all the emails from ACORN, the black panthers, jeremiah wright's little racist church, and illinois.....that would be enough to incriminate the media creation which is obama....
President Obama's supporters are not only from organizations that include majority black people. He had support from all races. That's why he became President. I believe you're a bit lop-sided in your thinking. Maybe we should look into your organization.
Without 95% of the black vote Obama would have never had won the election. Democrats make sure they keep the blacks in bondage to their party by taking care of them in the form of welfare and keeping their neighborhoods in crime and drugs. Not to mention the fact to always play the race card when things are not going to well with the blacks. You would think by now the blacks would be prospering and their neighborhoods would be something they be proud of. Black men would be taking responsibility and stay with the mother and raise the children but you have more one parent homes in the black communities then ever before. You dems are doing a wonderful job for the black population in America.
If the blacks ever did pull up their own bootstraps and hold their own people accountability for the way the blacks are living in the big cities maybe they would be better off then where they are now. Black leaders have failed their own people because they just keep racism alive and well so they can stay in power.
Obama being the first black President in America has done nothing for the black communities of America except extend unemployment benefits and keep them on welfare.
Ashamed of my country,
I can feel your hate! Keep up the waste of your time and energy on hate and see just how far that will get you in life. Now, tell me how great you are and how your life is "a bowl of cherries"! Come on, let me feel your hate again!
My grandfather had 5 bronze stars in WWII and GWB made him ashamed of his country for the first time, I have a hard time finding you too have much basis for your name to begin with.
Many others with other decorations feel the same way I guess, but your name is in itself a farce to begin with Ashamed of My Country :)
Wait, wait, wait - so this is an exercise in finding proof to support why you don't like this lady? While you are at it - go look at Senator OBammer's and Tracy Morgan's. LOL at "investigative"
I think there are several reasons why the public requested her emails back in 2008, it was because she was relatively unknown to the lower 49 states and it shocked many people why McCain would pick an unknown for a running mate. Also, I believe that many people suspect her husband was pulling some power strings in the background as well. It will be interesting to see what comes out in these emails.
As far as her not deserving constant scrutiny from the media...well, that's pretty tough cause she brings most of it all on herself (for example: HER version of what a "gotcha question" is....and HER version of "Paul Reveres Ride") Sometimes I think she plays to the media just to keep her name in it. She couldn't handle being a governor for a full term so what makes her think she could EVER be PRESIDENT?
bchred-You hit the nail on the head!
Good post. I agree, Palin has no interest in ever running for office again. If she had a real job, she would be subject to constant scrutiny and actually have to talk to the press. The way she is now, she can carefully orchestrate her brand, use her power behind the scenes, but not have to let anyone actually speak with her or ask her "gotcha" questions like what she plans on doing while she's in town.
The fact is, Palin and Rush are currently the most powerful forces in the Republican Party, and nobody elected them for anything. Watch all the GOP candidates fall lock-step behind those two. There is something very frightening about these people saying that anyone who doesn't agree with them isn't really a "patriotic 'merkin". Their mockery of education and intellect is similarly depressing.
sure, all 57 states prove the great divider doesnt make mistakes
Clotho post 13.2 So when has anyone ever elected you for anything, even the dog catcher. So you really should comment about your self and what you have done that so outshines her before you have the right to make these baseless, stupid, pathetic statments about her. She has been the most scrutinize political figure in ten years. Where have you been. Oh yes watching Saterday Night live for your news.
It is fairly obvious ( and well documented) that she had to resign because of this ridiculous scrutiny. She had to step down for the benefit of the state - and to pay her legal bills against all of this unbased attacks - which are unprecedented!! She then got on the speaking circuit and was able to save her family. By the way - do you know that some author bought the house next to her just to observe her and write a book! What kind of lunacy is this!?? Is this the country you want to live in??
It is fact that no president has had MORE gaffes than barack hussein obama........... none!!!!!! We won't even mention little joey biden......poor joey....
Does anyone besides me remember when Biden ran for President a few years ago and he had to drop out because it was discovered that he had plagiarized one of his best speeches?
The United States of America is going down the toilet and the only thing the media is worried about is doing the dishes
Sarah admitted in 2005 that I was the reason for her rise to fame...And I am very proud to be part of history..
I have known Sarah since 1997, I have sat with her while watching her son play high school hockey. As mayor of Wasilla I sat with her discussing a multi use trail to be built between Wasilla and Big Lake. But what I did for Sarah in June of 2004, I did because I felt the potential she had to really lead. When you talk with her, you feel an overpowering "in awe" feeling. So a simple act of encouragement and confidence, led to her decision to run for Governor, and the rest is history.
In 2004 I was closing up a shop I leased, just outside of the town of Wasilla, It was an old gas station that had one of those big orange globes on the roof, like it had probably been a Union brand station at one time. It was located at mile 47 of the Parks hiway. Before I permanently vacated the premises, I got up and painted in big letters and numbers on the globe, both sides, "Palin for Gov 06″ It was the first campaign sign to go up about the run for 06.
That did it, it started it all. She started getting calls and inquiries as to whether or not she was really going to run for Governor.
She admitted later that she had already decided to again run for Lt. Governor, as she had narrowly lost that title to Loren Leman in the previous election, and she was confident she could win it this time. But after that campaign sign went up, the calls from talk shows, and influential people started streaming in.
When she garnered the support and wisdom from the former Governor, Wally Hickle, well, that sealed deal.
She called me one day and said, Wes, be at my house tonight at 4pm. I said sure I'll be there. Well, there was media everywhere, and when she finally spoke, she thanked everyone for showing up for her announcement of her decision to run for Governor of the State of Alaska. But, she said, before I go any further, I have to recognize and thank the one man who was responsible for her making this decision. She pointed to me, in the back of the room, standing next to Clark Perry and La Donna Westfall, and she said, That man, Wes Hamrick is the man responsible for my rise in fame, and she told the story of how that campaign sign on top of that building started a chain of events that led us to that night.
I was very proud when all those camera's turned toward me.
I continued on as a campaign member, helping out where I could.
I was the one responsible for the "chant" Sarah, Sarah Sarah I started that as we walked down the street from the Captain Cook Hotel after winning the primary against a very tough opponent, Frank Murkowski, and if you'll read the articles about when Sarah was inaugurated up in Fairbank, The arcticle states….And from up in the balcony,,it started..'The chant" Yes, me again, sitting with my and her friends the Cherneski's, we chanted until Sarah told Libble Riddles to tell us to Cease and Desist.Hahah. And it was some fun times riding on the busses she hired to take all us campaign people and her family up to Fairbanks and back. The fun we had on those 6 hour rides is another story all together
Later, as I am also an entertainer, I sang at all of her annual Governor picnics and fund raisers, even during her run for Vice President. I even wrote and sang her announcement song for running for President in 2012..Titled "North to the Future, at her last picnic in Wasilla in 2009 I have included it here,
or you can find it on my youtube site under my stage name "ValleyBalladeer"
I am very proud of the fact that it was I that recognized her potential, and that I was the one who did something about it, at a time in her career when her popularity was waning, and I'm very happy it all worked out.
Everything happens for a reason, but the timing has to be just right, and this is a case of perfect timing, But it's perfect timing now, for the perfect Presidential candidate…..
Wes Hamrick
Sorry if I feel you are just patting yourself on the back and stroking your ego with this post.
How can it be read any other way?
NYMike-So much for his fifteen minutes of 'fame'. It should be shame.
Hmmmmm. It's posted on the internet, so it must be true. :)
So we can blame you for Palin Wes Hamrick? :D
Well, just color me stupid! I know I would not want to take credit for hoisting this blight on the lower 48!!
WES: If half of what you say is true.... You deserve to be publicly flogged for foisting this media obsessed, narcisist on the American people
msnbc can be counted on to jump on the corrupt main stream media's band wagon of
sexist attacks on Palin
All of you negative posters to this dignified and proud post of Wes's should be ashamed of yourself. The man has provided a positive testimonial and you snipe like 5th graders.
seems a couple of ego-trippin' dumbos dumb and dumber
Everyone knows exactly what this is all about. They have been out to destroy her from the very beginning and will stop at absolutely nothing to accomplish that task. Each and every person who is part of this should be ashamed of themselves. How do you lay down at night and close your eyes knowing you are purposely destroying another human being. And when you're through with her, who will be next??? It's ashame you couldn't put as much dedication and drive into finding out who the real Barack Obama was and is. No...a liar by any other name is still just a liar. Truly unbelievable.
girl4-She destroys herself and is in NO need of help in that department.
So, tell me Almighty Enlightened One, just who is the real Barack Obama? You're an ignorant hypocrite. Seriously. Read what you just wrote. Defending someone who exploits her power for personal gain (and that's literally the nicest thing I can say about her) while pointing the finger at someone who 6 weeks ago exterminated our nation's biggest threat?
Looks like someone has bought into the whole "Palin Pity Party" propaganda. According to Sister Sarah, the real victim of the Tuscon tragedy was her. The whole world is out to get her, and she's just tryin' to do the right thing, doncha know. She is an angry, malicious, and at times even violent, person.
The woman is as plastic inside as out. Her entire presence is a carefully-fabricated, flag draped mockery of what a real American patriot is. Most people now see through her, but there are still a few who really think she's "just one of us". I guess we are all buying $1.7 million houses in Arizona now.
Note how she changes religions as she changes cities:
http://i.imgur.com/HrvZo.jpg
And how unbelievably mean and nasty she and her people got when Margaret Thatcher's people told her that Palin was "nuts" and that a meeting with her would be "belittling" to Thatcher.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/09/margaret-thatcher-sarah-palin-meeting
Quitter Sarah Palin is a compulsive, repetitive, demonstrable liar:
- She has lied about the Bridge To Nowhere. She ran for office favoring it, wore a sweatshirt defending it, and only gave it up when the federal congress, Senator McCain in particular, went ballistic. She kept the money anyway and favors funding Don Young's Way, at twice the cost of the original bridge.
- She has lied about her firing of the town librarian and police chief of Wasilla, Alaska.
- She has lied about pressure on Alaska's public safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother-in-law.
- She has lied about her previous statements on climate change.
- She has lied about Alaska's contribution to America's oil and gas production.
- She has lied about when she asked her daughters for their permission for her to run for vice-president.
- She has lied about the actual progress in constructing a natural gas pipeline from Alaska.
- She has lied about Obama's position on habeas corpus.
- She has lied about her alleged tolerance of homosexuality.
- She has lied about the use or non-use of a TelePrompter at the St Paul convention.
- She has lied about her alleged pay-cut as mayor of Wasilla.
- She has lied about what Alaska's state scientists concluded about the health of the polar bear population in Alaska.
You cannot trust a word she says on anything. She was not, and still is not, fit to serve the public interest.
She is a politician isn't she? Well, then she can't be trusted. Period.
@girl - it turns out that she was perfectly ok with obtaining and sifting through state employee and other emails as well. So, I know this whole thing ticks you off, but Sarah Palin has done the same thing.
damn tyler wheres your code of honor, does it only apply to conservatives. Its amazing how you seem to let the liberals off the hook for code of honor violations CALLING GIRL4GIVEN "AN IGNORANT HYPOCRITE" WOULD BE A VIOLATION. Unless you change the meaning of your own codes as you see fit. oh and my personal opinion is that every liberal in here is an ignorant hypocrite. of course if you spent time deleting every violation there would only be conservatives posting.
Didn't we used to investigate, and if there was a story we would then report on it? Journalists, I skoff!
PSalinas- I agree. True Journalists should wait to see if there was anything behind her termination of the Public Saftey Commissioner for not firing her sister's ex-husband after their messy divorce (for one) BEFORE this makes the 'Front Page' of MSNBC's Home Page.
Yes, it's only "true journalism" when it comes to a conservative woman....When it comes to odumbo and other liberals, there is NO true journalism because journalism as we knew it is DEAD!!!!!!
I think everyone is missing the point, which is that she was conducting GOVERNMENT BUSINESS, which is of public record, in her PRIVATE e-mail account. That is why they are being made public now. Once again, Palin creates her own chaos and blaming the so-called "librals". How anyone can take her seriously, is beyond me. If this woman was running as a Democrat, I cannot even imagine the BS. Believe me, this woman gets away with all kinds of sht...Do you think Obama would have had a chance for Presidency if he ever trotted an out-of-wedlock pregnant daughter on the national stage?
Actually Mary, the POINT is no one else's emails (private or otherwise) have been made public in this fashion. The POINT is to get as much dirt on her as possible in order to destroy her. Regardless of whether she is a republican OR democrat, SHE IS A PERSON JUST LIKE YOU!!! And her daughter has absolutely nothing to do with this. Are you so perfect that you have never made a mistake in your life??? My understanding is that the ONLY perfect one was murdered on a cross. And the right to judge does not belong to you. Obama was made president because he spoke well, had some very important money backing him and people did not do their research...all they saw was a man of color! And we have gotten EXACTLY what we deserve for being so damn lazy in '08.
I think we did exactly the right thing by electing President Obama. He has done an exemplary job.
Hear, hear Cindy! Obama 2012!
I knew girl4given had to be some religious nutjob. Probably from Kentucky or Arkansas. No wonder she's defending Palin.
Obama's successes have been what? Giving the country an extra 5 trillion in debt? Starting yet another war with more on the horizon? Failing to produce a budget? Hamstringing our sources of domestic energy production? Giving Chrysler to the unions? Doubling the number of government employees? Stuffing the travesty of Obamacare down our throats? And on and on.
Let me guess: you're either a teacher or hold another government "job."
I pity all those suckered in to voting for Obama in 2008. For those who believe he deserves another round: shame on you!
Vultures sorting through someones email trying to dig up something. This only makes her detractors look bad and Palin look good. Don't you think they have had time to clean up anything dangerous. I bet Palin is haveing a good laugh over this one.
fritzthecat-Apparently you need as much schooling as Sister Sarah. So I did the work for you and you will find the list of his 244 Accomplishments (so far) here.
And what is wrong with being a teacher??? Sounds like you are a real Palinista.
Best of luck to you with that!
ps. My Grandmother had a fritz the cat clock, hmmmm, now I understand.
I would be willing to bet your grandmother had a "Felix the Cat" clock. Fritz the cat was pretty much a despot. But then again, that seems to fit for a great many liberals
girl, I'm pretty sure the right wing conservatives have had it out for Obama since before he took oath. Doesn't anyone remember the birth certificate incident? Calling for an elected official's birth certificate basically screams "We have it out for you!" No? I think calling for public records is a way to stay transparent with the public. When you seek out media attention, you have to be prepared to have every aspect of your life culled through.
I didn't have a problem until it became clear that no document produced and no evidence presented would ever satisfy the people who kept clamoring for it well beyond the point it made sense.
How can they be satisfied? This is the FIRST request, not the fiftieth, or five hundreth, or five thousanth. The first.
The FOIA request was filed 3 years ago by a Republican. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/10/palin-sued-for-private-e-mails.html
bleat_on,
RE: Your post #19.7 Do you honestly believe that to be a logical and intelligent response to Cynthia's Point comment? My answer is, and you can book the FACT,that ALL interested parties, including Republican, are pouring over the couple thousand e-mails of SP, most especially the GOP presidential candidates and their staffs!
Palin lives in your heads... rent free. Get over it, she's the amazing lady your mother never was.
So now if we don't worship Palin, we have bad mothers?
What did Eric Formans dad always call him? That's you.
Ron Jon- I shall send out an immediate eviction notice with EXTREME prejudice!
Oh, and SP couldn't hold a candle for my Mother to run by. For one small matter in the plethora of Sister Sarah's transgressions, MY Mother never used any of her children for Personal or Public self aggrandizement.
Dude, I would recommend you tread very carefully. Some people don't cotton to having their mothers insulted. The usual end result is the insulter kissing the pavement.
Oh please, Ron Jon. You probably just like looking at her a**. Why don't you twitter her a pic of your d***?
Barbara - you are giving Houston (and yourself) a bad name.
How dare you! You don't have any reason to denigrate any ones mother. You owe an apology to all.
You REALLY want to talk about my mother? I suspect you wouldn't say the same thing to my face. BTW, this is not what I would call a comment on the article. No logic, nothing about policy, just the lowest kind of ad hominem attack. Pitiful.
25K emails from a woman that didn't finish her term - yet we can't find ONE published paper from our current president while editor in chief of the Harvard Law Reveiw ??????
we are vetting the wrong person !!!!
Seems you're in the wrong vine. THis one is about Palin and not our President. Seems to be an epidemic though as all the articles not about our President have his name brought up as a defelction.
Nope, Willie, PhD is on the trunk of that "vine." The traditional (MSM) media relentlessly investigated her as soon as she was named McCain's running mate while conveniently ignoring/downplaying serious concerns about Obama. Remember that Bush was castigated for his C average grades in college? At least Bush (and Kerry) released those grades. And it wasn't the "public" that filed the FOI in 2008 asking for access to Palin's e-mails. It was the same MSM that was at the time so conveniently giving the current White House incumbent a pass. Here's a terrible precedent: anybody in public office or the public eye can now expect that anything s/he tweets, twitters, posts, etc. can be made fodder for public scrutiny.
Who are you people? How many bloggers does she have logged on here to spin the story...
Exactly what I was just thinking. Either that, or this country still has a long way to go before it sees the light of day.
"Remember that Bush was castigated for his C average grades in college? At least Bush (and Kerry) released those grades."
Nope. George W. Bush adamantly refused to release his grades. His grades were subsequently leaked, despite his best efforts (to New Yorker magazine, I believe). Not that I hold it against either Bush or Obama, as grades are not public record, the same as medical records.
We certainly know enough about Obama to know he was one of the top students at both Columbia and Harvard Law School. Graduating Magna Cum Laude is reserved for the best of the best, and you don't get to be editor of Harvard Law Review without being at least top 5%.
It goes without saying that every single American wants President Obama held to the same standard as every previous President, and not to a higher standard just because he's the first one to not be white. That said, he's had to blaze a new trail and jump higher hurdles by being the first, same as Jackie Robinson in baseball.
Right wing Republican reactionary NUTS are nothing but useful idiots for the rich and powerful. Their contributions to the dumbing down of America cannot be underestimated. They love Failin' Sarah Palin because she represents their low intellect and hypocritical ways perfectly. Sarah Palin is the poster child for the useful idiot Republican wingNUT!
Then how can a man who was one of the top students at two Ivy League schools be so damn dumb?
That's the $64,000.00 question. Make that the $14 Trillion Dollar question.
Willie PhD, I believe the job of an EDITOR is to "edit" the work of others, is it not? Why would you expect to see written material from an EDITOR?
FYI: Bin Laden was finally killed. bush was too incompetent to do his job.
barack hussein obama never went to the schools he said he went to...his entire life is a LIE from birth until now....a LIE.
Alex, CA - keep telling yourself that the reason why Americans do not trust odumbo and can't stand him is because bin laden was on the run for so long........ what intelligence caught bin laden, you fool????? Get your facts right and don't post stupidity!!!!!!
Ashamed, I am really ashamed of people like you. I am ashamed of what President Obama has had to put up with while he fights for stupid people like you. I am ashamed that you are so racist and ignorant that you can't see it.
Ashamed, please provide documentation, substantiation, or a link to some proof of what you claim. I have no reason to believe anything you say, as you are just one more anonymous poster scattering unproven claims across the Internet. BTW, your habit of using insulting variants on the name of the POTUS doesn't really help your cause. Oh, and bin Laden was on the run from 2001 - 2008 during the administration of George W. Bush. He was caught and killed less than four years into the Obama administration.
Ashamed of my country,
Your post #21.11 is really a "piece-of-work"! Something that you can be very proud of, Huh? You have made me laugh, because of this one sentence of childish, false and, once again, hateful remarks. THANKS FOR THE LAUGH! For this morning laugh, I will try to return the favor. Read carefully: You will learn, hopefully soon, that hate CAN and WILL destroy the one who hates and not the object of the hate, given enough hateful time and hateful effort! I hope you will choose the path of peace, love and tolerance, for your sake! Capiece?
Osama bin Laden declared war on the United States in 1996. He was connected to several bombings and other acts of terror as early as 1990. He was placed on the FBI's most wanted list in 1998 so you can blame a lot of people for not catching him. scrambolo, your intent was purely political just as the President's assassination of bin Laden was political. The way it was done has a distinct unpleasant smell to it.
You can read about his shenanigans here.
"the President's assasination of Bin Laden" ??? Hell I'm sorry we couldn't "assassinate" the sonofabitch at least three or four more times
Rick-312779,
Rick, ANYTHING can be done for political reasons! Indeed, most things are done for some reason, political or otherwise! How CAN you, or anyone, know, for a fact, the intent in someone's mind? I say you cannot unless you have a working crystal ball, or are physic. As for the killing of Bin Laden, it was done because we wanted it done, and have wanted him dead or captured for at least 9 years! By your own statement, he was wanted from 1996 forward. He did merrit being the #1 most wanted after the September 11, 2001 downing of the World Trade Center Towers. Bin Laden declared war on the United States and we on Al Queda so he was only a victim of a war of his choosing. No problem with that, I trust Rick? And as far as Obama's motivation to kill or capture Bin Laden you seem to be satisfied that it was only political, so good for you!
You desperate dirt lovers are pathetic. Why don't you check on Reid, Pelosi, Team O, Holder, Weiner, Wasserman-Schultz and the like? Does the amount of dirt on them seem too labor intensive for you or the WaPo and NYT? Can't get enough volunteers for that task, huh?
BECAUSE "They" Do NOT have an UN Elected SHADDOW Figure Sitting in on EVERY Decision made by the Elected Official who was VOTED into office.
BECAUSE "They" Do NOT have an UNELECTED person who is Not Even A Hired and Vetted and Throughly Investigated (including Drug Testing!) Government Employee COPIED ON EVERY OFFICIAL including CONfidential GOVERNMENT Communication.
BECAUSE "They" did not ACT as Governor with a PRIVATE Citizen making UN Official choices regarding JUDGES, State Contracts, State Employees, Trading Inside Information with Private Companies, etc., etc.
Sarah Palin DID. IT HAS ALREADY Been PROVEN that Official Decisions regarding the Government Practices Involving TAX Payer Dollars were made by Todd Palin who was NEVER elected or vetted or hired or chosen by the PEOPLE. SHADOW GOVERNMENT? DIRT? huh??
FEDERAL and Most State Employees are VETTED. TESTED. BACKGROUND CHECKED. FINGERPRINTED. INVESTIGATED. DRUG TESTED.
Todd Palin WAS NOT subjected to ANY of those REQUIREMENTS yet enjoyed the Privilages of Power that most State EMPLOYEES don't. The Very Thought of Allowing Anyone who employs This CONCEPT Holding ANY United States Federal, State or Local Position Should Strike FEAR in Every American.
We The People Have The Right To Know All About the WHO Running OUR Show.
Weiner's out there in the open and they're not castigating him. gimme a break.
Out there in the open? Yea, I guess! If you think he hasn't been being castigated, you are not watching/reading the news.
ARoseS....Hillary Clinton SAT IN on all the cabinet meetings during Bill Clinton's term. Same with Eleanor Roosevelt. Nancy Reagan. Every President has sought the opinion of their spouses in Presidential matters and decisions. Even Obama has said that Michelle is his confidante and he discusses decisions and matters with her and respects her opinion.
Just ANOTHER unbalanced, unfair, instance where the double standard is in full lopsided force when the witchhunt and lynch mob is in full attack mode. Only difference with this lynch mob is they aren't wearing white hoods.
The hysterical left strikes again.... Let's comb through every former governor's emails to see if their spouse advised them on anything. That's totally 'worth the time', because 'it's critical' that we 'as Americans' , see these e-mails. That way we can really get to 'the heart of the matter'.
People on the left frothing at the mouth because of this woman are expending unnecessary energy as she won't be the Republican candidate for President in 2012. I can't see why it matters anyways. Both parties funnel money out the treasury quicker than it comes in. The global economy is in collapse mode. There's no end in sight. Yet, let's look at Sarah Palin's e-mails and make a big deal of it. Have at it. I'll be in my bunker. BTW, The good news for David Letterman: his writers most likely won't have to spend sleepless nights coming up with clever Sarah Palin one-liners, as there will be new material from these e-mails. Oh boy!! Quality entertaiinment. Well, at least his musical guests are still cutting edge...
U R All Pathetic,
Why don't you have Rush, Glen, Fox News, and their minions do your work for you, per your post #22. We have better things to do than doing your homework!
"Staffers"t MSNBC and NBC news have gotten so lazy they want others to find their news for them.
I thought when they signed up Martin Bashir and Al Sharpton that this "news"outlet had it its low point.
Good thing Palin didn't stop in Salem, MA.
MSNBC and NBC news you are disgusting
Another witch hunt by the liberal media. Mob mentality rules! Reminds of the old south when the democrats (good 'ol boys) would dress up in white sheets and go find blacks to hang or shoot for no other reason than the color of their skin! Now it's 2011 and the modern day democrat is going after a woman? A woman who isn't even an elected official, lmao!
Why are they so afraid of Sarah Palin? This is a fascinating yet sad glimpse of a media gone wild!
When the frenzy is over can we sit down and discuss Obama's record? That is something relevant and very disturbing!
The FOIA request was filed 3 years ago by a Republican. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/10/palin-sued-for-private-e-mails.html
deflection? are you serious? riddle me this - why have others been given a pass? I am no Palin fan, but would love to take a peek at the hidden past of the current POTUS - that would be real news -
this is a witch hunt - a tale told about an idiot, as she struts and frets her final hour on stage and then heard no more, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing -
but why can't we open the past on the POTUS? it should have been done BEFORE the election !!!!
Who are you people? How many bloggers does she have logged on here to spin the story...
Careful Jeff S- Palinites don't like voices of reason.
Palinite? Barbara, try reading the comment - I inferred she is a simpleton.
the real question, "why Palin and not someone that really matters, like the POTUS?
as a past editor of a Law Review, publishing papers are MANDATORY - why can't we see them?
jeeeze - reading is fundamental.
question right back at you - who are you people?
Sure you can find past issues of Harvard Law Review if you really want to read them. Honestly though, unless you're a lawyer, they are pretty dry reading. Even for lawyers who don't practice the type of law discussed in the articles.
Edit: Here is a link to back issues of Harvard Law Review. They are only online back to 2006, but there is contact information to call them. Enjoy (I know I wouldn't, but I'm not a PhD).
http://www.harvardlawreview.org/issues/
Willie, PhD, I cannot check your CV so I will take you at face value. We agree that she is, in your words, a simpleton, I would have said an idiot.
MY comment was to Jeff S, and it was a pretty innocuous one.
If you are NOT a Palinite then this term does not apply to you.
I believe Clotho has already referenced your comment/question about the HLR.
Reading may be fundamental as you say, but continuity in a blog or thread is a malleable process.
I would postulate that you might get into a more valuable discourse by addressing specifics to the person who addressed you (as opposed to another poster on a thread), in a non-aggressive way.
Regards
It has been frequently commented by those that went to school with him at Harvard that he was probably the least active editor of the Law Review. Just like in the Senate he was absent. That is not at much of a credential as you think.
But the point is that he is President now - and I don't really think he's all there either. Unless he golfing.
Clotho,
The only law review our friend, Willie, PhD, has ever seen were the directions to the court house on the back of his parking ticket! Just a side note. The Harvard Law Review is available in most libraries. I also know that the University would send back copies, for a price, to anyone in the world! Just takes some thoughtful effort to get any or all of them!
This is like looking into a land speculation deal of the first lady and indicting the president on an affair. I don't really like this either.
I have to wonder, did releasing these emails spike your ratings for what? about 2mins? Obama is going to lose! Just a heads up for ya!
Haha, that's a good one. Obama isn't going to lose unless the GOP can get a candidate into the race that people actually care about and GENUINELY support. The GOP candidate won't win a 'lesser of two evils' contest against an incumbent. Remember Bush '04? Same deal.
Like I posted before, mickey mouse or goofy could beat the media creation which is barack hussein obama.....that is a fact! Who makes a candidate - who you liberals agree on??????????? I doubt that very much.... you liberals show us who you fear every single day!!!
Our President will have to get his act together quickly if he hopes to be re-elected. No president has ever been re-elected with an unemployment figure higher than 7.2 percent.
Dear Tom,
This whole process is the result of FIA request for specific documents. In this case, the former governor is accused of having used her offices as governor to enlist the aid of the State Public Safety Director to fire her brother in law from the State Police for starters....
Thank-You Jeff S! As I said in another post (above) when that one of many questions is answered, THEN this will be news worthy.
Until then, she just likes reading about herself and so there are devout Palinites.
Wooten from public records would appear not to be suitable for employment as a state trooper. He was accused of making a death threat against Palin's father, admitted he tased his eleven year old step son, violated fish and game laws and possibly public intoxication. Monegan himself said the Palin's never demanded that he fire Wooten but reopen investigation from when Wooten was suspended from service before Palin was governor. There is usually two sides to every story - usually depends on what your purpose is. Palin claimed Monegan was dismissed because he did not adequately fill vacant trooper positions or address alcohol abuse problems